I should have also added that Caren isn't competing with Melusine for the anti Chaotic niche. Caren blows Melusine out of the water for anti Chaotic damage because Caren has a Super Effective multiplier and Melusine has a Power Mod. Melusine's niche is anti Earth. The Chaotic power mod barely makes a difference.

@Brichards719 For Caren, do i need to have NP2 minimum for her to work? Also, what are the meta quick supports, is it just Skadi Ruler and Caster?

I already have Skadi Ruler and Oberon and just need a quick DPS, is this good enough to star farming with quick?

NP1 is fine. One advantage Quick has is having two 50% charge supports. Ideally you'd want both, but having both Ruler Skadi and Oberon the only thing you're missing out on is triple Skadi which is the best setup for some servants, but if you want to use Caren double Ruler Skadi and Oberon with Black Grail is her best setup.

Alice from the Mahoutsukai no Yoru collab and Jack the Ripper's great at recharging their Noble Phantasms.

@Valeth-san:

By the way, what's a "core"? ╮(￣～￣)╭

This is core.

90++ isn't looping, it's figuring out what 2 or sometimes 3 DPS servants can clear all the waves in 3 turns. Louhi is the best at this since she gets a full NP bar with append 2 while giving 20% battery to teammates. Even 90+ was this way, which they started doing after Skadi because 3/3/X node compositions could all be cleared by double Skadi + waver with Dantes or Zerkerlot for the most part. 90+ brought on multicore since 90+ would often not be 3/3/X, it would be 1 or 2 enemies in wave 1 or 2 to mess up refund or be hard to accomplish with double Koyan since an AoE servant needs more NP levels to contend with one big HP enemy in wave 1 or 2.

I'm pretty glad they made Louhi because prior to it quick was in limbo with most people just using arts or buster. Douman isn't really used for quick so much as instant death of bronze mobs or in CQ's. Louhi will arrive on NA in about a year and 4 months. She is definitely the best quick AoE servant in the game since she's a zerker with a ramping NP.

Honorable mentions to Charlie, Sei, Takasugi and Douman are also amazing for quick/crit looping as well.

But honestly any SSR quick servant at NP1+ triple Skadi will do amazing imo.

I left off Charlie because he's just worse than Okita in every way for looping, but he is one of the better ones if you don't have Okita. I definitely wouldn't include Sei. She does fine against 3/3/3 Sabers but other than that her damage and refund are poor, and her best case setup is too weak. Takasugi, and all of the Quick Archers for that matter have the same limitation to some degree. I left off Douman because his refund is abysmal, so he's heavily wave comp dependent, but he's top tier for instakill of course.

@Brichards719 I disagree. I think Charlie is just as good for quick looping as Okita Alter Saber, especially because of his anti demonic niche (which includes around ~182 different enemy types and ~29 Servants btw) and the 12 Hit Np for recharge (and with triple Skadi(!)) recharge even in mixed nodes won't be a problem.

They are super similiar, so u can't get wrong with either. Got Okita? Not really a need for Charlie. But also vice versa: Got Charlie? No need to roll for Okita.

Got both? Just increase the Np level from the servant u like more, easy.