She's already the ideal.

WaryWolfy I second that especially in her stage 2 form. Also is she ok at NP1 and Is she really good for supporting berserkers?

No, she is not particularly good at supporting anything, and for the most part is pretty selfish. 2nd skill doesn't bring that much support to the table, unless you plan specifically around it.

Her damage at NP1 is ok, but still a little low, particularly if you have Bikini Jeanne.

NP5 against anything remotely divine melts Gods though, and even at NP1, damage is up there. Nobukatsu bringing the overcharge will make her even more destructive.

And with her turning the field into fire, her subsequent NPs get more powerful.

I'd like the second ascension more if it had red hair. But the outfit is fire.

WaryWolfy Ok thanks for the info and do you did you Maou Nobu too. I got her when she first came out in NA. I want to use a buster team but one that does not need Koyan since I may not get her due to her timing with other servants.

I want something unique. We have plenty of survival zerkers, damaging zerkers, and looping zerkers, but only one debuff stacking zerker. Asterios is already fun to use so another hundered face/Yagyu servant but in a berserker form would be really neat. I would want an Np that removes all offensive buffs, applies a 5 turn 35% atk down, 35% and like dot stacking or something.

Isn’t Carigula a debuffing Zerker too? I know his skills are offensive oriented but his NP is about debuffing so.

Caligula is a weird case in which his kit is made to kill himself.

Yes it's kind of a debuffing kit, but in the wrong way, in that

A) He decreases his own DEF, so he takes more dmg

B) deals damage to himself

C) seals enemy skills and NP.

the last one is relative to situation; in combination with asterios, another debuffing zercer whose actually good, they can be a real goldmine against the likes of tiamat; but what objectively happens is, you lock your enemy;who usually has 3 kinds of actions NP, skills, atk; to only one, which is attacking. And he, a low rarity berserker, squishy, lowered def, is making sure the only thing his opponents do is attack, him, who has little HP to spare, takes double damage.

I would love the idea of a real debuffing zercer, I adore anything supportive outside of casters and rulers. Especially since zercs have the lowest c star gather rate making them GENIUS to play along with star hungry servants. But it's not gonna be easy to go at it.

It’d be fun if the “Grand Berserker” everyone been talking about turned out to the an upgraded Caligula but being very unique & useful.

I'd like a legit Berserker that did damage to everyone including allies. I think only Lu Bu has a party debuff for a Berserker, which made sense for him - one of the few characters worthy of the Berserker class.

But if you made the Grand Berserker uber strong at the expense of hurting the party, that's a real bad mon

I like to say: if a berserker gets damage while fighting, then he is a bad berserker, cuz the berserker style is to kill or be killed

Just like that

A lot of damage, and invencibility for one hit