Talk:Servant Strengthening Quests Part XI/@comment-29427540-20190804170751/@comment-36750435-20190910040741

@ ポロニツ and whats helena usefulness aside of farming if she is the so called "middle class waver"? as far as im concerned waver is also pretty good for boss fights and so is hans, the "poor mans waver". but helena has painfully long CDs and a first skill that is not just more powercreeped than stuff like instinct, basic clayrvoyance and its variations (like spionage and protection of the fairies) tactis and charisma below B rank, and this said skill also has painfully long CD.

miyus problem for me is that the devs seemingly didnt set on wether she is a support or a DPS, and its not like she is a DPS with team utility like ozy, liz, benienma, david and others for example, since she has a full support NP with a heavy demerit but only one support skill, and one of the other skills an fully offensive buff for herself only.

should they buff her, im more down with a third skill buff that adds some more team utility and maybe an increase to heal received or more healing to compensate the demerit, but either way, im still up for buffing helenas first skill 10x more than buffing miyu

and about asclepius, storylocked or not, he is a 3 star, if you missed accel zero collab and dont have nightingale, medea lily, tamamo or any support with healing, which despite is kinda of a small niche these days, it can be clutch in some scenarios, you could just spare 30 quartz on his banner and it would be very likely for you to get out with at least one copy, just like salieri in extra class banners. also he debuted with arjuna blanco and hot wheels, lots of people went for those 2, specially many girl players that finally got some fresh and powerful husbandos since chaldea boys couldnt debut a new one since arthur, and we have more girls than men anyway. getting off topic here i know. to sum it up, asclepius isnt as scarce for a lot of players if you think about it, and even at NP1 he is great because his skills are great.