Talk:Jeanne d'Arc/@comment-25726314-20190520000740/@comment-27971189-20190523072252

Stun is fine, the chance is high enough for its limitation, Servant-only, which moment when you need Stun the most. Making the only issue to that is existence of permanent debuff immune; it getting common but still on degree that Jeanne's still viable.

On Discernment, DW can argue player just need to layered it with another defense.

The number is not stellar but if you put other defense properties like Leonidas, Mashu, Achilles or Yagyu who have reduce attack, its still viable. 30% is high enough for permanent standard. Melt offers 50% with being Limited, Alter Ego and AQQBB deck, while Jeanne is permanent, Ruler and AAAQB deck with abusable invul.

If she got upgrade I personally prefer NP Charge over things like crit. reduce as its more effective on long run.