Talk:Ryōgi Shiki (Saber)/@comment-35574452-20180529132630

After using her for about 3 months. My opinion on what she needs to become a top tier Saber: -3rd skill, replace [Demerit: -10% np] with [Invulnerability] -2nd skill, turns into an AoE Atack buff, replace mental resist with defense% up for self. -NP interlude, dmg up and np seal for 1 turn on all the enemies.

She's an arts tank Saber right now. But she lacks party utility except via her Debuff removal on her Np, which isn't that impressive honestly. And she can't survive an enemy NP turn.

This means you have to spend extra recources to keep her alive in longer fights and she doesn't really buff your team, heal your team, protect them, give them stars, np gauge, or similar things. And due to her low atk, she won't do an impressive amount of damage either.

She's comparable with the 4* Nero. Both being able to heal, buff their own attacks and got an AoE np. However, Nero has tools to stay alive, while [ ] does not. Nero has a strong defense buff (albeit rng) and 3 sets of guts to keep her standing. And her atk with imprerial privilage up is rivaling Shiki's with her own atk skill up (assuming similar levels).

I'd say that out of the 3 buffs above, the most she needs the invulnerability added to her kit. To at least allow her to survive an np turn without having to rely on: merlin, jeanne, david, etc And even then, she would just slightly catch-up with Nero.