Talk:Elizabeth Báthory (Brave)/@comment-35539022-20190925213835/@comment-35153599-20191006165140

Yeah the issue is that with you losing 100% NP, even if you say have 200 or 300 when doing so, it's RNG and that's really hard to support, party-wide invicibility is nice but not at the cost of a full NP bar, Merlin has a party-wide invincibility buff with no downside, in fact it has additional bonuses with only requiring 1 turn more for cooldown. Sure he's a 5 star, and Elizabeth is a 4 star event unit, but that's not really a good enough reason. Kintoki has nothing bad about him, all his skills are useful though they only really apply to him. Elly's NP and first 2 skills are certainly worth it, but the third is just bad.

I like the train of thought going on here, how do we potentially fix this (and that's if the Devs have any intention of fixing this). I personally would consider it more worth the cost if you had gotten 2 or 3 of the effects, or had some other bonus that wasn't RNG. The ways to fix this are numerous, some of which have been stated. I would've (again trying to stay with the gimmick of RNG and the NP cost) cut the atk out of the RNG, put it as a guarnteed effect. Lower it's effect a bit, so it'd go from 10% to 30%, maybe increase the duration from 1 turn to 3. Add a damage plus to herself (again not RNG) of either 500 max or 1000 max, fairly small, lasts for a turn. The effects that are still on the RNG roll can stay, though personally I don't really care about getting crit stars from that, unless you got someone who can really take advantage of it. That said this fix would solve the issue, or at least make it more debatable.

Cause as of now, you'd basically just hit that skill if you either don't care what you get, and have NP gauge to spare (without wanting to overcharge her fairly good NP), or are praying that you get lucky with an invicibility or heal because you're party is close to dying. And that's just for what I've said, there's plenty of ways to fix this, and maybe someone has better options for this.