Talk:King Hassan/@comment-216.67.42.115-20170112000639/@comment-28209103-20170112155910

you're missing the point, Jack can't be buffed like that, she's stand alone unit, only Liz buff have effect on her. meanwhile Shuten buff potential are over the roof, so does her usefulness, personally my favorite method of switching is using Tamamo to boost her arts further, making normal Arts chain (no Crit) gave her full NP bar (NPAA, then NP again) for 40% def down. or maybe another Stheno for all Rider enemy for a team with 100% atk buff for 3 turn

she's simply too versatile, mass stun with def buff, whole party buff with Atk up, and a guts to keep her alive. not to mention she have buff potential that make her potent boss killer on right team, 200k are just her max output, on normal fight either JAlter or Stheno will do and she'll easily kill any rider less than 100k in hp with her brave chain

meanwhile if you go through the atk buff route jack are capped at 100% max with two waver and Barthory, Also her Quick simply won't give her the damage you need, said 200k came from BAA Jack can't kill 100k stuff with Quick chain,. Jack is standalone unit with her value in spamming NP, Shuten is highly versatile team unit which is highly useful for someone with the right tool, not so for newb tho.