Talk:Astolfo/@comment-2001:569:7CA6:2400:E944:7207:B460:8714-20180118011338/@comment-173.206.31.107-20180214163311

The only part i'll agree with is he's not as specialized compared to some of the other Sr riders but using that and saying because of that he's the worst SR rider in the game is just rediculous. Antoinette has so many more issues she just effectively has an extra 4k health then astolfo and nothing else, she brings no cc, stars and her damage is actually pathetically low.

Your argument for santa alter is a really dumb one cause you say she has higher damage potential from mana burst/np5, well Astolfo has easier way to charge his NP from his third, meanwhile trying to charge santa's NP is a miserable experience. Out of all the Sr riders she's definitely not specialized and saying NP damage  > np charge is not an argument its an opnion. Not to mention funny how you said i'm on an instinct meme bandwagon cause she actually has instinct.

saying Martha is better then astolfo cause she has her niche is only true maybe for challenge quests but in that case medea lily is infinitely better, on a class that doesn't suckup crit stars. Astolfo's better in most situations.

I never said he was great, but your argument that cause he's a jack of all trade he's the worst SR rider and bottom tier is rediculous.

> The reason he's the bottom tier Rider is simple, he's just not tad good at what he's doing

and what's he doing? he has above average survivability from his NP, he generates stars, has crit damage, and can charge his Np faster then most of the other SRs on your list. He's above average in all those just cause he doesn't have a niche which honestly seems to be your excuse for the only way you can justify antoinette/martha being "better" then him doesn't make him bad.

If i used your argument just to show how rediculous it is as an example. Would be like saying seigfried pre-buffs was better then saber alter cause he fits a niche and saber alter has 2 bad skills. Meanwhile never talking about her strengths that's what you've been doing.