Talk:King Hassan/@comment-31072007-20170117084243/@comment-27971189-20170117163456

To be fair, among those you listed, arguable are Vlad III and Enkidu, Amakusa to some extent, but its kinda hard to defend him just because NP spam.

Remaining do fall behind at some point.

Arjuna is not awesome anymore, GA post-Strengthening EMIYA considered better than him. Compare to Sanzo, Waver, Merlin and Illya, Da Vinci do have hard time. Against bosses like Goetia, Void Shiki do need more Arts boost. Karna NP lack damage compare to newer 5* Lancers. No comment for Medb and OG Arturia.