Talk:Kiyohime/@comment-31760473-20170508023118/@comment-28048698-20170509002457

@FGOHikaru: I agree with everything you said.

I like the theory of "everything related to dragon is considered EX". I totally forgot the Golden Fleece. Probably because the dragons are so powerful in the Nasuverse, even the weakest of them have a power rank EX (so if Kiyohime transform into a dragon, the NP have EX rank).

Also, what you said about the mystery and the additional or specific effect of the Noble Phantasm is an important thing. True, EA isn't EX just because the damage can deal is high. It have a high damage AND a dangerous effect. The same for Avalon, Avalon don't "block X damage", it ignore the damage completly, it doesn't matter the amount.

Also I think I can understand your concept of EX rank, and I can agree with it too. What I totally hate is the whole concept of "EX just mean special", so we have Berserkers with Mad Enhancement rank EX that can talk normally, think more or less normaly and all that because "they have a special kind of madness, that's all". Damn it, Mad Enhancement is a simple skill: "the more higher the rank is, the more you lose your mind; the more you lose your mind, the more power you obtain". Mad Enhancement EX must be "your madness is so high  that you can't think anything, you are just a killing machine, an angry Hulk is a cute kitty at your side".