Talk:Da Vinci and The 7 Counterfeit Heroic Spirits/@comment-24050152-20160411114425/@comment-49.149.51.243-20160411175402

You uh, havn't really gotten into fate much have you? Jeanne alter was created by Gilles precisely to do that (story of Grand Order chapter 1). Cu Alter's madness isn't so much his rage at life (In F/HA he expresses how he doesnt really regret any of it) as much as how passionately he raged in life when he got into it (to the point he even attacked his allies). Saber Alter isnt a pure reversal as much as "Saber without her mental restraints." - Largely the same thing the other Alters are.

Also EMIYA Alter would obviously just be focused on the side of EMIYA that was ultimately betrayed by everything and got twisted by what he became after he became a Counter Guardian. Remember his obsession with killing himself. Except he gets the answer he was after at the end of UBW, except for the part it isnt really an "answer" to the original due to how the system works.