Talk:Kama/@comment-28512353-20190412160547/@comment-28209103-20190412205922

JP and NA is irrelevant, AFAIK there's no differences. However can you tell me which CE are being used.?

also I have hard time following the sequence.. but is it correct to assume that last Arts cards give you 26% before the Extra attack? Either way that's still within margin of differences but as I said I already done with that topic. Anyone can try it themself and see the result themself.

I'm sure a lot of people think lightly of the phrase "you can try it yourself" but personally I believe it is an important gesture in this particular discussion.

By asking people to try it themself you're basically saying that "I believe that you won't manipulate your result for your convenience" and at the same time urge shows that you're confident that your result are genuine and you're not lying. In case vast differences does happen, it also let us identify the reason and move a bit closer to the real result by identifying the cause.

It is a gesture of good faith and shows that you're trying to reach consensus rather than doing your own one man debate crusade.

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On this particular topic I believe that trying to rank servant in "general" rather than specific situation is wasted effort other than for extreme situation which is when the servant is extremely bad or extremely good. Do not turn this into another Okita-Musashi because this is how you get Okita-Musashi debacle.

e.g Miyu is extremely bad among support Caster one can even argue her to be the worst support caster, Merlin during his heyday is extremely good as support caster.

However even for case of stuff like Merlin it is hard to establish an objective position that Merlin is the absolute top as support Caster in general compared to let's say Waver and Skadi, however if we get even more specific like "Buster supporter" then it's easy to say that Merlin is absolute best compared to his competitor like Nightingale and Semiramis.