Talk:Sieg/@comment-35471151-20180502133802

Hmm... Rewatching scenes of Jeanne with Sieg, once again reminds me of why Jeanne was so integral to Sieg's growth. Most people say that Sieg had no growth at all throughout the story but I respectfully disagree with this notion. From Sieg's lines alone we can see him try to understand bit by bit how the world (especially humans) is. I think most people forget that Sieg was literally just a floating fetus that gained sentience to escape the impending doom he first started to comprehend. Out of the tube he then is drafted in to a war where his kind (homonculi) are treated as expendable meat soldiers. The mere fact that Sieg started to fight for his species(?) beyond just his own survival looks like growth to me. Jeanne's significance in Sieg's personal growth is further shown when Sieg was put into despair after realizing that Humans aren't always rainbows and sunshine. It's his admiration of Jeanne's faith that keeps him from falling from true despair however.

Later on, with Sieg's battles with Karna and Shirou (whether you call plot armour or that he should never have been able to beat them is not my point) also showed Sieg's newfound resolve in saving not just his own life nor his brethren but the other lives in general. (Jeanne’s all life is important seems to have sunk)

Were parts of Apocrypha butchered and badly executed? No doubt. The clusterfuck of characters couldn't be properly developed individually. Was Sieg's character lacking in development? In my opinion his powers could've been explained better such as Fran's Galvanism and how he was trained by Chiron. But was his emotional growth underdeveloped? IMO at least not as bad as people say.

I think people who watch anime sometimes forget that they have a vantage point compared to the characters in the show themselves. They have access to multiple POV's and Lore not always available to the characters. Ex. People may say that a harem protags are dense (which they usually are don't get me wrong) but of course we have a sort of bias cause we can hear all the other characters thoughts and feelings which are not always readily available to the protagonist.

On a side note regarding Sieg's "cardboard personality" many other characters (especially female characters in Harem mangas) have this and usually they need someone to teach them about the world (usually leading to a conquered flag for harems). I think Sieg just generally gets a bad rap cause he's a guy and that he's the protag. Of course some of you may just dislike the personality type altogether but they're not as pronounced except when discussing best grill.

Well that's just my two cents regarding the most hated homonculus in Nasuverse. Hopefully, he gets a better rep in his FGO event. Thank you for reading this block of text and whether you agree or not. Have a nice day.

PS. Wish he could've been a saber though.