Talk:Martha (Ruler)/@comment-25712820-20190313223416/@comment-34364075-20190313224923

Before the NP damage.

She's not effective against Scathach, since shishou is neither divine, demonic, nor undead.

And even if you get her to NP5, you'd still need 500% Overcharge for the 50% defense down. There are already a few servants with more utility that can reach 50% def down with relative ease such as saber medb, hokusai, and waver.