Talk:Sigurd/@comment-36660379-20180821021959/@comment-37465653-20181110145051

A lot of weird opinions in the thread. Like people saying Artoria lacks in skill which is... What? Not bringing in extra materials like how Merlin trained her to a point that exceeded common understanding (nowhere is it said she's 'still within the realm of common men' it's actually implied otherwise), she's capable of going toe to toe with Kojiro while having a crap Master.

Sigurd and Artoria are stated to be about equal but, imo, Artoria is stronger for being more versatile. A fight between the two of them might lean towards Sigurd because of his Anti-Dragon abilities. We've seen that those conceptual advantages don't often amount to much (like with Mordred Vs Siegfried) but if everything else is equal, it might swing the fight... However, Artoria should also have a conceptual advantage against Dragons (which Sigurd is) as all Servants have strengths and weaknesses based on their legend as standard. Sigurd's advantage in this department may be larger, though.

So, Sigurd might have a slight upper hand in a fight between the two of them but Artoria has a much bigger advantage most of the time. Her Dragon Core gives her a healing factor that allows her to recover from having her chest ripped apart, Invisible Air is much better than people give it credit for as it not only grants a hidden weapon but also offensive strikes and it can be used as a barrier type shield by setting it up around a point, Excalibur is the strongest offensive NP barring Ea with an activation time that lets her outspeed Noble Phantasms specifically  built for charging at high speed (Medusa's Bellerophon, Iskander's Via Expugnatio). All that and I've not started to go into Mana Burst meaning hse can match blows with Heracles (making her initial stats misleading) and her slew of other BS like water walking