Talk:Katsushika Hokusai (Saber)/@comment-37946388-20190818012911/@comment-34208015-20190820074732

My point is that if you agree that Scathach > Tamamo while both have the same class and job in team then they can't coexist on the same tier. Moving down stuff in a tier list is nothing scandalous, especially when meta shift is happening.

In the end, what Appmedia try to do with they tier list is to reflect meta as precisely as they can and overall, I think they get the job done quite well even if I don't agree with them on everything.

I remember when Skadi was released. Appmedia updated they tier list drastically but bumping up many quick servants because they believed meta shift was happening. Almost everyone said it was knee jerking, that they were overestimating Quick, that Skadi help but Quick servant were still trash by nature because Quick type sucks. 4 month later, Merlin went almost extinct on friend list, Quick are steam-rolling on both CQ and farming like effortlessly. That's alone show that they are quite conpetent enough in their job.