Thread:Hitsuji Mamoru/@comment-30314236-20180822154337/@comment-27971189-20180823131720

Favorite series? FZ and FApo.

Based FZ Gil - Kirei, Amakusa - Semi, also Astolfo - Jeanne (LOL).

@ Hitsuji

Herc is still below Gil and Enkidu.

Gil clearly have good amount of divine 'weapons' inside GOB, remember that he have Vajra and Vimana that originally divine products; even his reaction to Vasavi Shakti is simply, "Oh, I didn't have that yet. If I defeat you (Karna), can I have that?"

Enkidu himself is divine weapon by nature, he still capable hurt him, even with AOB blocked by Nemean Pelt. His combat prowess is not limited to AOB. . Pretty sure Gil and Enkidu won't go, "OMG! What should we do? We can't win!" against whatever Alcides thrown at them.

Twelve Labors is not about stealing as it more about Herc deserves it for clearing task that would be impossible (as the labors intention is more to humiliate him).

Reincarnation Pandora is acceptable if it requires him to defeat said opponent before stole their NP also having some kind of limitation like the item should have physical form and not uniquely tied; or like you said, cost him something like access to his original NP / Twelve Labors itself.

Here? Not happened, as long it can be stolen its good because he's Avenger. LOL.

I agree that Reincarnation Pandora is unnecessary. IMO, Herc got his hype from both strength and combat experiences which sealed under his Berserker form; not to mention it can be said he's unique in that his fame is world-class in real world. Here RP, IMO, reducing him to strong villain with cheat item that Saber and EMIYA effort to defeat God Hand looks much better.