Talk:Super Orion/@comment-6688553-20191220061845/@comment-34208015-20191222014908

I'm not sure if you realise that all it takes for MHX to slaughter any Saber in ST CQ is 3 turns.Turn 1: Stun pluguit, Turn 2: MHX is protected by her invuln, Turn 3: Ennemy turn 3 never happen. As you can see, unless the CQ has some pierce invuln gimmick / debuff immunity gimick there is no way for a Saber to kill MHX within his first 2 turns hence he will never be able kill her.

Squirtoria is actually more vulnerable than MHX as she has no evade / invuln / guts.

You can indeed use BG with Kuro and boot NP turn 1 if you use Waver but Kuro but her NP loop won't be as stable as MHX's NP loop who can run with Waver or Summer BB as 3rd Support. If you take 2 Waver for Kuro than you lose a lot of damage.