Talk:Circe/@comment-190.108.127.198-20171130172142/@comment-28209103-20171130180335

Tamamo have among the worse NP gain for AAA deck and I never meet anyone who complained bout that (If her NP gain is that good then it'll be too broken)

Having High Speed Divine word by itself fixed her NP gain problem by leaps and bound.. all she gotta do is stand there and provide 3 extra arts for arts chain.

Personally probably peps said she's bad because she's part of the new batch of servant that overturn the old stereotype.. e.g King Hassan is a shitty assassin cuz he didn't puke stars, fact that most assassin nowadays are all about extra utility like Chiyome and Danzo. Some complaint are pretty reasonable like Mordred Rider and Astolfo NP gain are shitty af but other than that usuall it falls down to one self-expectation falls short