Talk:Nero Festival Redux ~2016 Autumn~/@comment-28424965-20161001151105/@comment-25493810-20161001154735

ignore defense doesn't seem to work either, I tried using Shiki's NP which ignores NP and it only dealt pathetic damage, so I guess that it didn't really ignore that much

My guess is that the defense is really thick but it probably decrease over time because I managed to deal some damage on it with gilgamesh on his normal attacks but it's quite far into the battle, or characters with ignore defense can deal a little bit of damage

we might need some servants with def downs and we have to spam a lot and finish sieg with a ignore defense attack