Talk:Lancelot (Saber)/@comment-33784096-20180129061803/@comment-31993485-20180211091720

and sorry for the yagyu misunderstanding,I take yagyu as an example of saber better than lancelot is not because his 1 turn burst capability,its rather because of his massive attack down debuffs meant for survivability,and sorry,it looks like that I was too focused on trying to explain only the offensive features of a servant,I do apologize for not stating it before~

yep still..I wholly agree about that musashi is powerful on her dmg potential,thanks to valeth's explanation before,but there is still this one thing that I am quite vague about musashi's advantage over lancelot in context of survivability,sorry if I have some grammar mistakes,since english is not my native language ><

her survivability kit more or less lies on her invincibility skill,right? and sorry,but I'll bring this context to our newest singularity,salem for an example,and iirc salem's final boss can dispel any kind of buffs before her NP strikes right?therefore making any kind of invincibility buff useless? in this case,i do believe that her 3rd skill can be quite meaningless in case of an NP attack like that,therefore,rendering her 3rd skill invalid as a kind of a huge advantage of survivability over lancelot if we are fighting a boss like abigail again in the future lostbelt arc,but outside that kind of battle,I wholly agree with your statements before

and regarding sampleyandere's statement before about lancelot cant do anything without mashu as far as dying from a berserker's 1-2 hit attack lol i laughed when i read that sentence xD(not in a sarcastic mean of course,its because of a pure comedic reason xD),but in a case of a 2 wave boss battle consisting of multiple zerk mobs with decent HP,lets just say..like those samurai mobs from shimosa,before you finally reach the boss,will you still use her 3rd skill on waves before fighting the boss on 3rd wave as to prevent musashi from being damaged before the 3rd wave comes which in return will leave your musashi with her 3rd skill rendered in a cooldown before you arrive at the boss stage? or would you just bring a mashu/waver to provide defense buff to mitigate the damage? i need your confirmation on that first and if i sound so cancerous toward musashi or something,i do apologize,i also need this information to improve my capability of using yagyu with the same damage nullifying buff on his 2nd skill,just like musashi in the same situation as i have stated before.

and my closing statement would be,sorry if i have many ambiguous statements on my arguments or observations,if there are any false fact or false logic,please do correct them if you deem them factually invalid,many thanks,and if i may sound cancerous before,please, I do apologize ><