Talk:Artoria Pendragon (Lancer)/@comment-31760473-20170428011305/@comment-28209103-20170504210359

you forget that Karna have the higest tier Astra (spell) of them all in Indian Mythology the Brahmandra Astra which is only known by 3 people and 2 of them are incarnation of Vishnu himself. Basically Karna also have aptitude as a caster, This one is said to create a big bang and such by manifesting the complete head  of Brahma the God of Creation (5, even the current Brahma only have 4 cuz Shiva cut one of his head) and re-do the genesis of universe (galaxy), making Pasupatha looks cute in comparison.

and yeah I won't take Apo seriously, I never did. Even now I still haven't figured it out how you can summon a servant in 2 vessel (Class template).. isn't the vessel are limited to 7 in each war? If semiramis took Caster vessel then how did Shakespeare appears under Caster class?