Thread:Stray Bird/@comment-28818979-20161217150031/@comment-28209103-20170607172415

which is why I said the Hand gaves my more problem than Ibaraki.. even with Grail he won't make it if those Saber hands concentrate on him..

still no luck for non trinity to death run,, at this point I might as well jump to the bandwagon and said that DW forced us to use trinity or something.. my cap for damage bonus is 600%, with 3 Kintoki CE LB'd + 1 Ushi, I haven't bought any of the Ushi on the shop but I did get 2 drops.

with Da Vinci at best I can only hit 300k on non-Assassin hand even with 2 Tamamo buff,, but annoyingly Iba keep doing NP seal on my run.. The point of NP spam team is that I have to be able to make a shortwork over the hands.. but once the rider hands comes out they wiped my team faster than I can say Sumanai.. so that's no-no for no death run.

alternatively I can try stacking def buff with Za Wall as usual,, but I need Caster Gil with Ushi CE to do that and I'll lose 100% party buff.. I might PM McDohl for this.. at the very least the def stack should give me more margin against those rider hands.. but again there's NP seal to be considered here..

If it's bout shortwork through the hands then Raikou is still the best option now, but it's risky because Raikou take double damage from all hands but zerker..I might be able to do it with Waver, SAlter, Merlin but I kinda don't wanna use Merlin, not to mention I doubt his Illusion will make it in time for no Death run..

Anyway this challenge quest seems easy enough if you couldn't care less bout letting your servant dies..