Talk:EMIYA/@comment-33739498-20180702112237/@comment-27971189-20180708170523

Its nice that you put good point about EMIYA. but you gave him too much praise.

In Fate, he indeed kill 6 lives of Herc, but it took a toll on him; the difference is glaring, when it took no time for Gil to deplete all Herc lives, or how it actually took 'minimal effort' for Saber to defeat Herc if her master is better than Shirou.

You could argue about victory on Sparks Liner High as Saber Alter said she didn't care that much about the battle outcome as everything will perish, and Shirou went blank after that.

Prisma Illya? It took a lot of time until he score things you said, not to mention Shirou has advantages having highest compatibility with EMIYA card compare to other user.

He's always that guy with potential but no big deal compare to the real deal. Saying he's mid-tier is a stretch; its not like people who take it easy like Gil, Enkidu, Achilles and Siegfried have little to no combat experience either. Its because they're experienced enough that people like them prefer not pulling their punches only when the enemies are real deal like Karna.