Talk:Artoria Pendragon (Lancer Alter)/@comment-120.188.87.32-20160917052840/@comment-29893250-20160927021742

Where exactly does the math work out on that one? Alter's NP1 multiplier is 400% while vanilla's is 300%. Assuming full fous, no grails used, and no CE, we're looking at 10968 atk on alter and 11995 on vanilla.

Alter = 43872

Vanilla = 35985

This comes out to Alter's NP hitting approximately 22% harder than vanilla's at NP1 on both. Now if you're talking NP5 vs NP1, I suppose this might be difference (though I still don't see the 2 shots vanilla not kill while 1 shot on alter kills) but that's not a matter of which is objectively better, rather a matter of accessibility. I am a bit interested in how such a large damage discrepancy could occur.