Talk:Leonardo Da Vinci (Rider)/@comment-35700336-20190819081243/@comment-38277271-20190827171815

@Valeth Mordred's third skill is used to initiate the loop in case you only have a normal kscope. What point did I fail to understand? Initially I answered the OP saying that Mordred is easier to setup, never said that Da vinci was worse. If you have Nero bride sure you can easily use Da vinci in farming, otherwise the standard team of Mordred + double Tamamo + Paracelsus will be fine. Ok maybe I was wrong about the needing the MLB kscope, but my point stands: Mordred team is easier to setup.

No shit that Da vinci is better on the long run, that's why I said that Da vinci is better for CQs. But you know farming is the opposite of long term. The 20% party wide np charge on her np is not needed for farming.

So the numbers on Mystic code skills don't matter? Then try farming with a 2004 at lvl 1, sure the np gain skill won't help you looping. I level the mystic codes that scale well with levels so I can be more prepared in case I need buffs. And actually the original mystic code heal only has 7 turns of cooldown. You can easily use that heal at least 2 or 3 times if you don't have the luxury to 3 turn everything. I always use the lostbelt mystic code, but when I do a harder quest I need to switch to the original mystic code because the lostbelt one heals less and that extra heal comes in handy in those quests.

You think that only whales play this game right? Get real the Mystic codes can make a big difference, especially when they are proper leveled. What SQ argument? Does it matter if I'm f2p or not? It's not like I have a guarantee at getting the servant I want anyway, regardless of rarity.