Talk:Sigurd/@comment-36660379-20180821021959/@comment-36264692-20181111111712

It's a bit gnarly when people use Kojiro and Kuziki (caster divine magic supported) as a example to show that Saber automatically weaker than Sigurd. Eventough we will never really know how well Sigurd would perform if he would have to perform under the same conditions.

In Kojiro case it's more of him having a extremely well technique as a swordsmen despite being a awfull servant, he is just a wraith afterall. (And i supose Saber being a European swordwoman vs a Eastern technique also matters.)

Keep in mind that Saber went through alot of (miraculous) battles (Vikings, dragon Vortigan, etc.) in her live for many years and is older than she looks (thx to the pulling the sword in the stone). A well experienced veteran swordwoman that didn't gain her title of the "King of knights" just because she pulled a sword out of a stone.

And Kuziki was a exception among exceptions, a "one hit wonder" that only was possible by the "arrogance of a servant underestemating a human that gave Kuziki the upperhand" (sounds alot like the Gil vs Shirou fight doesn't it?). Even Cu (Who according to Nasu is also a top servant) himself mentioned to be warry of his "strange technique". It was specifically mentioned that the technique won't work a second time against saber.

Frankly speaking Kuzuki was such a "thing" that never again was something like this attempted ever again in any type of work that came after fate... (not counting certain copy cats or servant possessions/fusions).

I'm neither going to say that anyone of these 2 would "stomp" the other one. But rather that it would be a "interresting" or entertaining fight where the difference in "strenght" between the 2 would not matter that much.