Talk:Artoria Pendragon (Lancer Alter)/@comment-120.188.87.32-20160917052840/@comment-29893250-20160923174009

I disagree. I believe that Artoria lancer outclasses her in almost everything.

Stats: Obviously regular wins.

NP gen: Regular wins by leaps and bounds (not even counting skills)

Skills: Alter has some crit game. Regular has a NP charge plus debuff removal. I honestly prefer the regular in this case though I can see the argument somewhat the other way no matter how much I think being able to chain fire NPs is better than a few crits especially since alter's crits only last for a turn. Not like eternal arms mastership or something.

NP: Alter hits a littlee harder than regular (though it isn't really a 300% vs a 400% due to base stat difference). However, the regular's overcharge more than makes up for this and invincipierce is a thing.

And of course it costs less to field alter. In practice, though, regular Artoria lancer will fire off 2-3 NPs for alter's every one. It is also entirely common to see her fire off consecutive NPs. Regular Artoria lancer is much, much, much better and the single thing that alter is better in (crits) is basically overrided in my eyes because even if she crit every hit (best scenario), it will just sometimes come on par to simply firing off an extra noble phantasm (every scenario for regular Artoria lancer). Then there's that extra cherry on top debuff cleansing.