Talk:Alexander/@comment-28485878-20160517220123/@comment-27376746-20161102203803

To anon, I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here, but I think you're talking about that special summoning condition for Achilles.

It's true that both Gil and Achilles are OP as fuck when compared to other servants but they are different kinds of OP. King Douchebag has rather low stats when compared to some of his compatriots but Gate of Babylon is just a really overwhelming method of attack. Very agile characters like Berserker Lancelot (AGI: A+) were only able to hold off his Gate when he wasn't taking them seriously. I can only think of 2 people who can fight Gil when he is serious and those are Alcides (True Archer) and Shirou with UBW.

The essense of what makes Gilgamesh hard to deal with is his method of attacking, while Achilles is freaking invulnerable to most Heroic Spirits. If Achilles were to be summoned in a Grail War where non of the other servants had Divinity or Divine Constructs, he becomes literally immortal. With Gilgamesh, there's at least technically possible for anyone to kill him, but with Achilles that's just not the case.