Talk:Sigurd/@comment-36660379-20180821021959/@comment-33784096-20180910193344

Since we are compare TM world of Artoria/Arthur to Sigurd/Siegfrid, I think I'll put my opinion:

1. Swordmanship, I think Artoria will get more credit than Siegfrid/Sigurd since her swordmanship was confirmed as one of the best among the saber by TM, just like Gilgamesh was the strongest servant in TM world. Beside Siegfrid did fought Mordred before and Mordred defeated by Artoria, so... ? I'll vote Artoria wins.

2. Np - I remember someone mentioned that Siegfrid can burst his NP few times, Artoria need more mana to use even once but if she manage to burst her Excalibur, I think one of the stronger NP in TM will ezly burst both Siegfrid and Sigurd to death ... but what if Artoria in her best form vs Siegfrid alive form? Can Artoria burst her NP many times just like Siegfrid did in anime? I'll vote Artoria Wins.

3. How desperate the master in TM want to summon Artoria - I think it explained all, Artoria has the most balance status among other sabers, of course her kit with Avalon was almost a cheat NP if someone can summon Artoria with Avalon. Another wins for Artoria.

4. Equipment - Excalibur vs Balmung/Gram, Excalibur was made in Avalon and Balmung/Gram was made by a God - Odin, so which weapon wins? Armour of course Siegfrid/sigurd will win but a small weakness will make a big mistake in real fight. other equipment I think Excalibur sword sheath was over cheating. I vote Artoria wins.

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Conclusion, if someone can summon a full power Artoria, NO saber can challenge her in TM's world.

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Some question... Artoria got dragon trait because dragon blood run through her vain... but how on earth she will defeat by Siegfrid/Sigurd because of that? Dragon killer =/= kill dragon will suddenly got special buff to ownself. Siegfrid/sigurd got talent to kill dragon =/= got talent to defeat Artoria that contain dragon blood. Because Artoria can't change herself to dragon, so which mean Siegfrid/Sigurd can't get any benefir when fighting with Artoria.