Talk:Lancelot (Saber)/@comment-35548126-20180927043639/@comment-35412194-20181011181920

@Zombiay: Do you play on NA server? Because she hasn't received her NP upgrade in NA yet, so her np damage without buff is about 52k or so. @Valeth: She doesn't have that 30% art up, but she has a 40% atk up, which can go up to 60%. Even without the crit, her NP damage and Extra card deals more damage than Lancey so much that his crit is not enough to compensate for it. And the difference will be much more when you add Waver/Tamamo to the team.