Talk:Fūma Kotarō/@comment-30480779-20161210234340/@comment-24702580-20161211194709

I never once said he was bad. The fact that a 3 star servant is able to match and in some cases even outclass Jack in terms of raw star generation is incredible. Jack is the be all end all of star gen from quick cards, thats a fact unless there is some other servant out there with a really bizarre setup. If anything, doing these numbers out  (Which I was doing mostly for myself anyway, I just happened to see your comment when I was passing through this page.) made me decide to actually level the np5 fuuma I've had sitting around for a while to see how well he does. The only thing I will say is that I wouldn't go too crazy grailing him up. Getting him to level 80, or maybe even 90 is good, but from an objective standpoint, grailing just gives you more hp and atk which are not helpful for star generation. If you wanted to get the absolute most out of grails you would use them on a heavy damage servant like jalter or karna (Yeah both are 5 stars and can take a long time to get but my point remains).

Other thing to consider is that if you look at the grail atk and hp of lower star servants compared to higher star servants you see that it is noticeably lower.

Granted, all of this is coming from the person with a level 100 angra mainyu, literally the worst servant in the game, so yeah.

Also, I was mostly joking with atalanta. She is definitely not a star gen servant, she is a crit damage servant. I just thought it was hilarious and completely out of place on her skillset that her np threw out such a stupid number of stars.