Talk:Kiyohime/@comment-31760473-20170508023118/@comment-28209103-20170509053052

pretty sure I already said that Clochis dragon are considered weak rite? I don't think the power level here have much to do with the rank for NP. Afterall i'm just implying that summoning a dragon might be counted as really difficult sorcery as such it might get EX rank.. same with Kiyo case where she transform into mock dragon. what i'm implying is that as long as it's related to "manifesting a real dragon" might be considered EX by default. it's just a hypothesis as of now tho..

While Kiyo indeed can manifest as dragon I don't think she's that strong compared to legendary dragon like Fafnir or Vortigern..but the act of summoning/morphing into phantasmal species of the highest level by itself might be considered extraordinary feat.. I won't take the summer version that seriously tho,, unless we wanna talk bout how Prywden could summon tidal wave or is it proper to attach Excalibur to a water gun.. and to be fair she doesn't even morph into dragon for that one so maybe that's the reason of rank down??

Fafnir armor, or Artoria Dragon's core or even 'RYU GA WAGA TEKI O KURAU' from Tawara are similar in nature however they're ultimately just an aspect of dragon, a part of a dragon so to speak so it might not be considered EX. at least I think it's the reason why Sha Nagba Imuru are considered NP while Claivoryance and Revelation are just skill... The former manifest as complete God eyes while the other are limited form of claivoryance.