Talk:Gilgamesh/@comment-31760473-20170504051711/@comment-28209103-20170515145252

I have to disagree on Saber with Avalon part tho. it's no longer debateable that once she received Avalon she become the most broken servant out there, being even more immortal than Heracles(minus brain as weakness) and invincible when it's used as portable fortress. The decisive part however is the question wheter Artoria can move or not in the "portable fortress" mode.. if she can then it's total victory for her but if she's forced to be stationary then it'll end in staring contest instead without the element of surprise.

Problem with Avalon probably healing ability are similar with Ciel immortality,, she can be impaled, and curse will slow down her regeneration. therefore the healing factor are useless against gilgamesh, and only the isolation function actually let her stand toe to toe with him. If she retain her mobility then Gil have no chance in close quarter combat vs CQC Specialist Saber. at least not while he's an Archer. Therefore as I said the decisive part fall into the detail of Portable Fortress mode.. it's only used once afterall.. also we don't know wether she could attack within Avalon or not, that's another important factor.