Talk:SE.RA.PH/@comment-31188719-20170507162149/@comment-28209103-20170507225010

the not so big Kiara are almost doable with Hans Mashu Asterios combo.. cuz with right CE she tend to filll our NP quite fast making Asterios Atk down a viable method to debuff her even without any KP debuff

on the other hand I still haven't find any way to beat the giant version.. we can beat her apparently with debuff removal + Heal from medea lily.. def up won't help you for that fight cuz not enough NP gain from attack spam def buff.. meanwhile a full turtle team might be able to beat her in 1k turns or something..

still waiting to ascend my BB to max, will borrow a Jeanne, and i'll fight giant ver with Jeanne BB Tamamo..