Talk:Setsubun 2018/Floor Quest/@comment-28546409-20180127093657/@comment-1914684-20180129003849

I was able to turtle Shuten NP multiple times including the nearly invincible part without Merlin/Waver (I have neither of them). My Medea Lilly was enough counter and heal Shuten NP without damage reduction, so my guess is that Anderson with weaker heal but defence up may be enough to hold off as well.

The regular Medea can also remove Shuten self buffing.