Talk:Sigurd/@comment-35789030-20180720051608/@comment-27971189-20180723140618

Sorry but the amount of Arturia enemies significant enough that Mordred is real advantages if you short of class-counter; saying its limited to Saber Wars or Summer is close to being ignorant.

The basic lines how someone score higher on tier list is not how someone fit challenge quest;  how many advantages you could got with him/her whether you new or experienced. If its simply for reason of challenges, a lot of Servants can replace Tamamo/Waver/Merlin/Jeanne on top tier.

No matter how you put Musashi on higher stands if there's someone can gave you easier time regardless of enemies, Musashi will be considered lower. Advantages given by Mordred is real enough to both new and experienced players compare to Musashi.

This is basically what happened to Sigurd. You got powerful critical damage but when Lancelot and Munenori offering easier critical management by their own, one wouldn't suddenly gave him top-tier seal of approval.

People roaring about Musashi is not because off-class mind you, its not like other people never use story support for each of their own reasons, but how AQBBB deck put considerable weight, right on stage you would like see less error like Shimosa.

Feel free supporting her though, I'm just explaining why Mordred can be considered higher. If you didn't agree, its not something new, really.