Talk:Sigurd/@comment-36660379-20180821021959/@comment-27971189-20181111121718

I take it you finally incapable of reason why Artoria is top tier without Avalon, or to be more exact incapable of confirming author words? That also same person saying Gil is the strongest Servant and write that Archer Herc is extremely strong he should have no issue to be stronger than Artoria that Rin and Shirou didn't want to think about it.

Author words is author words but at same time, look objectively whether it required a condition or not. There are many instances that Artoria should lose against more skilled / stronger enemies if not because she's the main heroine or simply-- plot armor. That's why when the comparison objectively happened, she tend to fall in capabilities even to EMIYA who supposed to be the weakest Servant.

Cu himself is no doubt strong, he can hold Gil for a moment, have fate-bending spear and push EMIYA to use Rho Aias, the ultimate shield on his arsenal. Its just his luck ended up gave him terrible Master that is Kirei in similar way Karna got Jinako as his Master; Bazett & Cu combi is notably strong, you know.