Talk:Arjuna/@comment-31760473-20170714014627/@comment-27971189-20170825092602

And I said again, battle is not all about stats.

If its all about stats Gil won't stand as the strongest; how about Enkidu who possibly goes with random stats? The main reason Gawain lose is simply that all the condition are reaching point that it doesn't matter for him anymore, be it win or lose, he not even firmly defend his king anymore.

Gawain himself is not all about buff. People tend to misunderstand that his power depends from Numeral of Saint, mind you that he himself is excellent swordsman that only Lancelot can stand above him. If he is really that weak without the sun, than all his strength in Extra and Extella is invalid.

Siegfried is stronger than Arturia. His spammable Balmung is testament of his skill. Its not like everyday you can find someone can launch energy wave as good as others with Prana Burst by his sword skill alone, and solo-ing notable evil dragon without some kind of holy sword or divine protection; Karna, one of top-tier, regard him as noteworthy opponent is enough proof.