Thread:Valeth/@comment-118.70.177.74-20170801015239/@comment-28209103-20170803111716

Ain't that exactly the whole idea of power in Mahabharata? I thought this is pretty basic? one received boon and power regardless of one being good or bad as long as one paid penance and capable of wielding it. One capability and power are determined by the number of weapon one possesed in addition the skill needed to wield it. If it's about warfare skill both are already qualified as Maharathis and both are considered to be equally good, the rest fall on the boon, and weaponry.

If you're saying that he's all about equipment then i'll say that Arjuna are saved by the hundred string of Gondiva otherwise he'll be armless because Karna cut 9 of the string, he's saved by the chariot of Indra given, he's saved by carrying the almighty God on his chariot that give him guide cheat.

The fight of Maharathis is exactly fight of astra vs astra, weapon vs weapon, to counter Nagaastra one need Garudaastra, to neutralize Bhramaastra one need another bhramaastra. To counter the infalliable Pasupatha one need equal astra like Bhrahmadandha or Kavach and Kundala, hence it is forbidden to shoot astra on lesser enemy.

Defeated means retreat? Karna head want to say Hi. Had he still had the Kundala his earlobe would've been protected, from Anjalika. Cannot be vanquished doesn't equal to victory? what are you even talking about? Kundala keep him impervious to the poison that makes him paralyzed for a moment, Kavach made him impervious to arrow, and blow and both combined give him imunity against Pasupatha, Made of Amrita means Karna cannot die, This is what i means to be invincible. It means that Karna cannot be killed, and in one on one duel that's plenty. It is true that he's not undefeated even with it, however at least he can't be killed at the time of his death.

Shakti is just another dart, another Astra given to Karna, it's another ace in the hole for Karna to defeat Arjuna, it's lost. Bhargastva Astra is another ace in the hole to defeat Arjuna, Arjuna retreated when it's used thus he can no longer use it against him, His special Nagaastra are another ace in the hole against Arjuna, however on top of his charioteer sabotaging him, Khrisna also intervering with it. Karna had to use Brahma astra to counter Arjuna thus he lose it for the rest of the fight, Looking back at what happened to Drona when he's about to use Brahma dandha astra, it also means Karna also can't use that one. Everytime Karna used an Astra he become steadily weaker due to his weaponry being sealed once after another.

Again It is Khrisna who said it himself, he said that even after Karna lose the shakti, the Bhargasvara and of course Kavach and Kundala, That Karna is probably equal if not stronger than Arjuna. Thus at least we understand that the two Maharathis are equally powerful, however on one side he received all the boon possible from the Gods, on the other hand one man who have been severely nerfed, fucked by circumstansces and shackled further by obligation of "Not to use same Astra twice against Arjuna" on top of the knowledge that Arjuna is his brother. It's hardly surprising that he's called the superior one.

No matter how you repeat it, it doesn't change the fact that Karna are doing uphill battle against Arjuna and still putting up a good fight, capable of pushing Arjuna chariot back, almost killed Arjuna, and capable of cutting the invincble string of Gondiva. He don't need the Shakti, If he's capable of Spamming Naga Astra then Arjuna is pretty much doomed because he can't counter it for the snake living in the arrow is special one. He also can't use the weapon of Bhargastva. His means of defeating Arjuna is sealed one by one.

It's given that Karna cannot win, every cosmic force is going against him in favor of Arjuna. His ability to stood toe to toe with Arjuna regardless of all that is the reason he's deemed as the superior one.