Talk:King Hassan/@comment-216.67.42.115-20170112000639/@comment-28209103-20170112180721

nah, that's idiotic, they have specialization, alone shuten is simply assassin with lot of toolkit, not even a contender for damage race, but on right team she's overwhelmingly strong, her NP are nice bonus but obviously I value her normal attack more.

there's debatable point however is that I assess Jack as A regardless of team, I realized recently i'm not an expert on quick team hence I might missed something, for example you could pair Jack with Waver or common support we know and her value will relatively be stagnant.. a.k.a no significant boost or decrease in her utility, the lack of Quick might even resulted in lower average star hence she might decrease the peformance in certain team. I don't have Caster Gil tho, she and Gil bride might be a great team.

on the other hand Shuten value will soar tremendously depends on how what team she's in, that's a fact. and that's only talking bout Shuten, overall Shuten gave positive value to any team she's in, thanks to her Debuff and Buff and in the team I proposed before the value of the team raised significantly, a.k.a everyone hit hard and hit good even with Quick or Arts.

of course I might missed something due to rarely used quick based team, hence I missed something. I also left out CE since it'll be endless pointless discussion.