Talk:Orion/@comment-36517927-20180927052855/@comment-34364075-20181112130238

Again, no one's saying Orion is not viable. It's simply she's overshadowed by others. There's a reason she's not a popular pick.

Let me just put it in realistic scenarios then. I just ran both Euryale (ungrailed, half fou'd) and Orion (lvl 90 max fou'd) against male knights on NA with Hans and Tamamo as a support. Both has the same CE (Another ending at lvl 20). Euryale was 6/4/9, Orion 6/4/6. Euryale's NP outdamaged Orion by at least 48K under the exact same buffs from Hans and Tamamo and she can spam at least twice as often. Without Waver, Orion is lucky to even be able to use her NP once every 4 turns while Euryale is just spamming away merrily; and Euryale doesn't even need grails to outdamage Orion against males (dmg against female remains to be tested, but I'd expect similar results).