Talk:Dead Heat Summer Race!/@comment-159.203.11.112-20170813232124/@comment-87.77.124.241-20170814111349

@Hikaru: Thanks for having taken your time to write your thoughts down. You make a lot of good points and I especially agree when it comes to the part that F/GO tries to cater to a specific (male) audience with its pungent fanservice. From a commercial standpoint, it is somewhat understandable because they think this is what makes the most money (though I think intentionally cutting your fanbase in half by alienating women is a pretty short-sighted strategy). I guess it only becomes problematic when the Fate franchise takes itself too seriously (and it tends to do), because the fanservice and the subservience of the female characters then start to intrude in the narrative. Heck, I could just write a whole essay about how the character of Rin Tohsaka fall apart in UBW after Archer abandons her to get raped by Shinji and all she's worrying about is his problems because the narrative for some odd reason can't allow itself to take her own troubles as serious as it does with EMIYA's stupid monologues. Just as an example for very real sexist scripting.

Here in the summer event... well, it is mostly objectification that is problematic and I think that's why the opening tweet's accusation of pedophilia is coming from. If all the CE's and summer Servants are obviously just created to look pretty, to act endearing and that their exposed skin is connected with sex (just look at those final ascensions damnit...), it doesn't take a big leap that this year's Summer Little CE with underage girls in school swimsuits falls into the same category of sexualized potrayals of women. And you can't give FGO the benefit of the doubt in regards to this one when you have something like Prisma Illya in the franchise. This is about little kids being sexualized.

I'd also like to add that the 'fantasy' aspect is a little problematic. The male characters here are usually created as power fantasies, as people the player can identify with. Virtually all the female characters are created as something worth admiring, that's why they just stick a buch of endearing stereotypes together. This is a difference and this is why F/GO could just as well put a 'for guys only' sticker on itself, because it doesn't offer the same kind of approach to women. Hilariously enough, this conversation just reminded me of a picture that show hilariously how things would look like if it were the reverse:

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