Talk:Arjuna/@comment-31760473-20170714014627/@comment-33048040-20170917203614

@Hikaru you make those rank based on lore or game play wise ?

If its based on lore wise why artoria in tier 2 ?

Why people always forgot her true noble phantasm (Avalon)

Artoria should in tier ex since not even gil can hurt her if she decided to use Avalon

Avalon is a cheat after all. Invicibility that cant be pierced by anything = Auto Cheat