Talk:Fate/Grand Order ~First Order~/@comment-28048698-20170101150153/@comment-28209103-20170102051444

Hyo, the thing bout shield and sword refer to literal shield carried by Mashu and the Sword carried by saber, midway he drop us hint bout this when he talk bout the reason EMIYA ambushed mashu party and how he concluded that Mashu are dangerous for saber because she sent her right hand man to finish the job. That is perfectly understandable since it's Saber.. I mean that's Galahad shield, one of her knight, it's obvious she know bout it's power. that line of EMIYA said that he heard that story long ago, and he said the answer is paradox, this part might refer to FSN HGW cuz EMIYA is the winner of said fight therefore having it's memory is given but personally I did not see this in context of EMIYA x CU rivaleries but about Excalibur vs Lord Camelot.

my take on the anime is that Cu Caster and EMIYA are bitter rival on that particular grail war and haven't settled their score but EMIYA got slain by saber and come back as different person,, basically it's what happened on that alternate holy grail war not FSN one. it's further proven