Talk:Yagyū Munenori/@comment-49.147.12.94-20180118112638/@comment-27971189-20180118120356

Adding things a bit.

Lancelot himself heavily dependant on stars. Yes, people often said how amazing he is when he score crits; sadly its like no one admitting how lacking his performance without crits. Aside that, no defense skill such as dodge or defense up leave him vulnerable, which is bad if you greatly depends on him for star generation.

Yagyu on other hand, he didn't need crits to perform great. As long the ATK debuff hit, you can say he already did his job; crits only allowing you to abuse his ATK debuff further.

Funny story, JP players already comparing it. Both solo and full party of NP 4 Lancelot vs. NP 3 Munenori. Both with Skill Level 6+.

The result, Lancelot, as Hikaru said, far outclass Munenori in terms of damage but perform not good enough on solo, where the stars distribution affected by RNG while he has no defense skill.

On other hand, Munenori do firmly on both solo and team performance. In solo, he crippled enemies ATK that he can make it until third wave (no random crits or some boss-only things occured) alone. In party, he managed going as far as carrying Mozart Lv. 1 together with GA Asterios-- by simply crippling enemies attack as he goes.

Thus in latest tierlists, he often stand above Lancelot as his performance technically comparable to what overloaded kit possessed by Summer Raikou could do.