Talk:Super Orion/@comment-6688553-20191220061845/@comment-35412194-20191222052447

Or the enemy got status immunity or having dodge/invul as his break trigger, heck even a def up is enough to hinder the spam. And why Kuro with 2 wavers when Kuro got her own np charge? Waver + Tamamo is enough for Kuro to do stable NP loop, and if you use BB as 3rd support then Kuro can loop as good as MHX. Saying Archuria is more vulnerable vs saber than MHX just because the lack of invul is absurd. VS saber she pretty much got near 30k hp, coupled with heal + def up. Enemy saber killing her with an NP? Okay. Enemy Saber killing her with normal atk even with crit? Not a chance.