Talk:Arjuna/@comment-31760473-20170714014627/@comment-27971189-20170824144602

And that justify the point where Gawain had his doubt.

You can see on exactly same link that Gawain do aware that Camelot starts to crumble and it does affect him that he can said whether he win or lose, it doesn't matter anymore. He clearly defending Lion King not as firm as before.

If he really that firm about his point of defending Lion King he won't explain why the Rounds are incomplete, explaining that he consider himself comitting serious sin, after all he did.

As I said, I'm not reducing Bedivere. I only said that what happened in Bedivere vs. Gawain is similar to Shirou vs. Gilgamesh. Shirou got his buff, just like Bedivere, and win against Gil. It doesn't change fact that Gil personality is also deciding factor of why Shirou can win, not easily made Shirou power level much better than estimatated power level from more experienced character.

Saying attack on Camelot doesn't affect Gawain is being ignorant to how he and Agravain losing their confidence following the event.