Talk:Stheno/@comment-139.193.87.57-20171225234550/@comment-125.166.103.119-20171229163306

^ Are you implying Sieg isn't pitiful? lol Sumanai is Sumanai for a reason. Also, Saber Lily can become not garbage once Saber Wars hit and she can get her NP5. Not good, meh maybe. Saber Lily is basically 3* but lots of 3* are known to be 4* in disguise, Saber Lily is somewhere in the middle. Journey of Flowers is lit like Ushi's Tengu Tactic and Mana Burst is always good so she's solid in my book.

People just underestimate Saber Lily because she's eating away at the team cost (and EXP cards). There's nothing wrong with her stat since people do use 3* like Fergus without qualms. To put things into perspective, a NP5 Saber Lily has the same NP multiplier as NP1 Bedivere (both achieveable without rolling gachas) while having more or less the same stat at max level ungrailed (well, Lily needs 80 while Bedi only needs 70 but hey, no grails right?) and people generally consider Bedi's performance acceptable. Why so much hate on Lily? There's no helping Stheno though, NP5 Stheno is still terrabad even on max level.