Talk:Setsubun 2018/@comment-31574368-20180118050951/@comment-177.148.157.106-20180119235749

Gorgon's Crits? With that crappy 29 star weight? With that garbage star gen?

You need so much support to make her actually decent enough that you could also virtually any other servant in the game useful.

Avenger class is BEYOND overrated. Just because Jeanne Alter is great, doesn't mean the whole class is great. A class composed of mediocre Servants, one half decent Servant (Doggo), and one great servant (Jalter).

Also, stats lie in with Salter, except she can't attrack stars for shit, has lower star gen and lower NP gen. Salter is also much more useful, since you actually find Lancer enemies quite easily. How many multi-Ruler nodes do you know of that requires an AoE Avenger?

So nah, her stats, other than HP and Attack, aren't even close to Saber Alter's, and she isn't even close to being as useful as Salter actually is. And it's not even as if Saber Alter is a great servant to begin with. Her base stats are good, and she is good for ember farming, but that's pretty much all she is.

Jalter is the only must level Avenger in the game, which OP already has. She is an outlier, not a rule. Avengers are far from being great.