Talk:Rider/@comment-36159720-20180715092619/@comment-34041338-20180801225438

Achilles has plenty of good reasons to be Rider class. 2 out of the 3 horses pulling the chariot are immortal gifts from Zeus and while the chariot is nothing special the two horses most definitely are. Furthermore, if Achilles is only Rider due to "gameplay" why was he introduced in Apocrypha far far before Grand Order even began development?

Ivan being Rider is due to his merging with a Divine Beast which is a big fucking deal with Nasuland, but of course that isn't even the normal Ivan it's an alt universe one. I suppose you could argue he's a Rider for "gameplay" reasons but that doesn't apply to all to normal Ivan.