Talk:Artoria Pendragon (Lancer)/@comment-31760473-20170428011305/@comment-27971189-20170504171033

First, Gil have no 'prototype' of Karna weapons in his Gate of Babylon.

Gil can have prototype only if legend recognized the usage of NP by its owner and its not tied uniquely to its owner hence he can not have things like Saber's Avalon, Ten Rings of Solomon, or Herc's God Hand but can have things like Gram and Gae Bolg.

In Karna case, its because of both reason. Legend recognized Karna skills above the usage of NP while majority of Karna NP is unique to himself, causing Gil will not have Karna' NP stored inside his vault. At CCC, Gil does express that he wanted Karna's NPs for his collection.

Second, Karna with his full arsenal is complete set to goes on par with Gil OP-ness.

Vijaya, while there is no TM version yet, is OP weapon that, if goes by its original description, pretty much on Anti-World level. There is also his Vasavi Shakti, Anti-Divine spear that he can shoot it as a arrow using Vijaya; deadly combination.

Kavacha and Kundala, heavily reduced physical and conceptual damage from outside to 1/10, also indomitable will so strong it keep him alive despite the odds, allow him to withstand Ea's painful 'truth' and Enkidu bind (like how Herc set free from Enkidu through his willpower).

If he's summoned as Rider, he may have access to his own chariot that way superior than Gil's Vimana-- and yes, the chariot is unique to Karna so Gil won't have the prototype.

Gil aware about this hence he is not denying Karna in his full strength can reduce his chance of victory to 50:50.

Sadly, just like his legend, most of Karna appearances so far have his OP-ness nerfed by various factor. Good example of his real strength is on Apocrypha where he can fight Vlad and Siegfried without problem despite their fight located at Europe while he have to keep his mana consumption in check.