Talk:Artoria Pendragon/@comment-34908363-20180626000632/@comment-34908363-20180706034917

Not really that much higher.

Lv 94 OG Artoria: 11638 (12628 with fous)

Lv 90 Saber Alter: 11324 (12314 with fous)

That's a mere 314 difference, with the five star being four levels higher.

I also saw that table, but it gives me nothing to work with: it considers the servants at their normal max level. If I had access to a spreadsheet with those formulas, it would be easy, but since I do not, I was asking if anyone knew it.

Guess I'll try to use that long formula...

Cutting out all the multipliers that are the same using both Sabers vs the same target, only three things remain: Attack, NP Multiplier and Atk Multiplier

So...

Artoria: 12628 * 400% * 1.18 = 59604

Alter: 12314 * 450% * 1.12 = 62063

Seems like Alter is still stronger...

Also, the stronger CE I use, the less the slight atk advantage will matter...