Talk:Hassan of the Hundred Faces/@comment-25712820-20170516222253/@comment-69.27.24.234-20170805121432

For what it's worth, in Nasu-verse, Jack the Ripper was also a wraith, created by the aborted children of the prostitutes in London, and besides, even "unreal" entities like Nursery Ryhme can exisist due to the collective human consciousness, so that would also include all of the Hassan-i-Sabbah, this one is described as individual heroes who were once one, from a forced multiple dissociative identity disorder, which is why "they" still count as one servant. In any case, all "beings" etched into the Throne can be summoned, and as with Quetzalcoatl/Orion/Ishtar, outside/divine beings can hijack calls from the Grail, provided they can fit into some kind of vesel/downgrade their powers to the point they can be summoned.

King is the originial, true form of Hassan, and founder of the order, and besides, is a Grand Servant, which is a higher being than Servant, and closer to Divine in any case, and by "rules" of Nasu-verse, could easily destroy Gil or Karna in terms of raw power, let alone skill. Now, "true" Karna, with his armor, could one shot Gil and probably almost anything below Primate Murder, as he is a "God Killer", so that's another story.

Honestly, we probably only summon the one form of HFH because of game mechanics/we are a crap summoner, as noted by issues with Heracles, et al. not because of Fate/Zero, another little anecdote is that  *SPOILER*







HFH has been used in EVERY grail war, including Fate/Stay Night, as is revealed in Heavens Feel as True Assassin (Kojirou Sasaki/Nameless Samurai is the only one shown in the other routes, summoned by Medea as everyone probably knows)








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Also, sorry for the randomness, I don't usually comment on anything, and I know that some people are new to the Nasu verse so I don't want to spoil anything from the anime/games that is plot relevant.