Talk:Ryougi Shiki (Assassin)/@comment-2001:E68:5447:3650:FD79:64B5:2BC9:1BB0-20180206160918/@comment-28209103-20180208051220

If what you need a star generator with debuff removal and damage support then Osakabe already took that position atm. Her AAQQ deck means it's possible to put her in Buster, Arts and Quick. Her def  up and hp up have synergy with Merlin, Waver and Tamamo. What she don't have is offensive type NP but that's not exactly important for star supporter anyway.

Ya see I wanted to roll Osakabe not for Quick support only, her kit seems to show a lot of promise,  I always feels something are lacking in my rider based team and I think she's a good answer for that. Well it's OOT tho.

When it comes to Jack she's still as good as other specialized servant on what she's supposed to do so she's spared compared to the powercreeped Okita. Shiki might have better at team comp but do mind that arts team are friggin expensive. Shiki is stellar once you pair a 10/10/10 her with 10/10/10 Tamamo + 10/10/10 Hans for example. If you don't have that commitment then Jack is better vanilla.

Among the arts Archetype she belong to Arts crit afterall, and while Arts crit is crazy powerful when it works, it need at least one 2030 and powerful star gain engine+hitter. Shiki, Chloe, Lancelot Saber fall into this category...