Talk:Nero Festival Redux ~Autumn 2018~ (US)/@comment-36924796-20180918143811/@comment-32509119-20180918153813

In this game there is no Def Stat, like the loading screen sometimes says: A DEF UP is a negative adjustment to the Attacker ATK stat. So a 200% DEF UP is in reality a 200% ATK DOWN for the Attacker which drops the Stat always to 0 so you cant damage him no matter what the ATK stat was. The only exception is flat Damage Up(Divinity Passive or Waver ATK UP) and DOTs( Poison,Burn,Curse) which are applied independent from the ATK stat. The best way to deal damage to him is with defense ignoring NP, but there is a problem as well. Those NPs dont ignore the DEF completly, instead they  ignore 100% of the DEF so instad of 200% ATK down you only get a 100% ATK down which is still 0. If you want to deal damage with this kind of NP you need to reduce his DEF before you cast the NP. E.g Marthas 3. Skill on Level 10 reduces by 30%-> 170% DEF UP(Or ATK DOWN), NP -> 70% DEF UP, now you can deal Damage, but it is still reduced by 70%. With additional DEF DOWNs you could reduce it further to deal more damage