Talk:King Hassan/@comment-216.67.42.115-20170112000639/@comment-28209103-20170112171853

nope, as I said again and again, Jack is STANDALONE, I never missed that point.

we're talking about which one is the best so in term of biggest potential then it's shuten, I use damage as example since the biggest argument about shuten v jack is the dps, true jack can spam NP and spew star and such but Shuten simply have the potential to go over her in damage given you have the right team to boost her. as you said yoursellf Jack is offensive type but when "support" could rival her in DPS doesn't that means there less reason to use Jack? that what happens when you just failed to look at the whole picture, in fact Shuten is Hybrid rather than pure support, and she does great in both (Support and offensive)

to put in even simpler wording, Jack peformance is A regardless of the team, Shuten is B to A+ depends on your team, that's also where you get emotional and failed to get my honest evaluation, you're taking this newb thing too personally, i'm refering to literal newb that doesn't have the right kit to boost shuten from B to A+, my usual tool set in order of rarity is JAlter, Tamamo, Stheno, Caster Gil, Paralesceus, and Mozart + Limited Suit Lunam Mare. To get said damage at the very least you must have Stheno and either JAlter or Shuten in your team, I can't imagine newb having those kind of servant if not for bought account, hence literal "just registered" person. I believe for literal Newb Jack is better alternative, if you have the team to boost Shuten then she's better than Jack. that's my honest assesment