Talk:Demon King Nobunaga/@comment-25612186-20190704182940/@comment-27971189-20190704200302

The issue is more to bar set by JA and Dantes. While all of them have no issue to operate independently, on team, both JA and Dantes have no issue leaving her behind.

J. Alter goes straight to single boss killer, not to mention we confront Ruler as single enemies at most times; her kit easily keep her prominent on that role; two Arts card keep her ease at team.

Dantes is jack of all trades, you won't find issue to field him as he not only provide attack boost but also control tool and debuffs, which is good; then he transform into legit multi enemies killer with Skadi.

Also-- when you compare it straight by kit outside team consideration (solo), she's actually competitor to J. Alter instead of Dantes. However, being owner of AOE NP with feature that locked to Divine might cause inevitable NP 2+ / Grail / 2k Fous to get what you wanted.

Nobu can be said more reliable to handle current enemies with her triple Buster deck and skills but compare to J. Alter, effort spent is 'more'. For that, I personally consider her on Dantes level. Good but you need more compare to easier ones that is J. Alter.