Talk:Artoria Pendragon/@comment-39685984-20190603120942/@comment-39685984-20190605125611

Well there are some bosses/challenges where AOE is more useful than ST. For example, in the NA server there was the Rashomon challenge where you had to kill 14 hands before you can hurt Ibaraki.

I easily finished the challenge with Saber Alter as only Damage Dealer. She one-shoted all of the hands, even the ones of the Archer class. Artoria vanilla has only a little less damage than Artoria Alter, so I'm sure i could have one shoted them with Artoria Vanilla too. But i'm not Sure if that would have been the case if i would have used Mordred, cause she has a lot less damage than Artorias...

But, you're right, you'll be mainly using AOE in farming or iin Story quests. And in both of them, defense is just useless, and Artoria would still being a better pick because of her cleanse speed (both having stronger damage and better NP charge).

Again, there's no possible scenario when is better to use Mordred than Artoria. Except, maybe, in the final battles of London and Camelot (to beat her chichiue). But then again, as yourself pointed, it's better to use an ST as Musashi or Okita against them.