Talk:EMIYA/@comment-120.188.35.88-20180228135059/@comment-34208015-20180505164854

@Acerbus Vultus:

" i also thinks that all the minus you give him is due to the lack of experience on using him properly".

Again it's not a question of experience of whatever, FGO is a simple game: most the time reading the servant description wikia page and eventually a few runs are enough to give a rather good idea of what can do the servant. And Emiya isn't an exception regarless I'm experienced or not... so please stop saying that a problem of knowledge or experience on my side that's rude and unfriendly...

"i mearly said that that skills is good enough for him to generate a handful amounts of crit stars"

That's not the point...

"a 100% buff on both crit damage and generation is a big buff, and this is considering that its for 3 whole turns! i dont think you realized just how big if a buff that is.."

Again, that's not the point... yeah those buffs are big I'm perfectly aware but it doesn't matter in regard of optimality. Regardless that the buffs were a +100% or +1% for 3 turns or 1 turn, the question is can Emiya exploit them at the best. When I ask if Emiya deck is optimal considereing his skillset, I'm not asking if he's generates enough of stars or deals enough damage I'm asking, I'm asking if he maximizes his star production and crit damage output with his deck cards distribution as adjustment variable, in other words could he have generate more and hit harder with another deck. I'm sure you know that even at +50% crit damage boost a buster crit will hit harder than a Art crit boosted at +100% crit damage, and that even at +0% star gen boost a 2 hits Quick card will generate more stars than a 3 hits Art card boosted at +100%. That's why I said Emiya doesn't really match his post strenghening skillset. To illustrate further his pre-strenghening skillset was way weaker than his current one but he was much more but his deck was better match and in consequences pre-strenghening Emiya is more optimal than post-strenghening Emiya based on his skillset.

"just how good his skill is instead of just looking at the description and goes "meh, this isnt optimal." "

That's another debate: "Does servants have to be optimal". My sort answer is no. but that's out topic. Just for reminder, I joined the thread when someone asked the reason to change Emiya's deck and my answer is that his current deck doesn't allow him to exploit his skills at their best (in the sense that with a QQABB deck he would have statistically maximized both star generation and crit damage).

Again you're not on the same logic. When I'm taling about if Emiya is optimized or not you're talking about if he's good or not... Here to help to understand the concept of optimization