Talk:Astolfo (Saber)/@comment-35828360-20191230174305/@comment-34208015-20200104222340

Astolfo weakness is that he has awful NP internals compared to Okita, even double Skadi and Summer BB won't make him loop, while Okita can reach this point effortlessly by simply drawing 1 quick card turn 1 and 2. So you can easily run Black Grail on Okita but not on Astolfo.

Astolfo has on the other hand a tiny bit higher maintenance cost: He requires a CG setup if you wish to make him loop. This requires an additional mlb Kscope and 2 more native supports (basically Waver and Nero Bride) on top of your own Skadi. If you can fulfill these requirements, then Astolfo easily outclasses Okita (kinda like how Kama outclasses Jack), but otherwise Okita is better.