Talk:Artoria Pendragon/@comment-35672498-20180730144953/@comment-25310270-20180801010741

^agree on most things, other than viability of Shiki,

she doesn't exactly have "low attack" she actually have a 6% Buff on all of her cards in form of her connection to the root passive, a point many seems to lways forget from her.

She also has team debuff clean in her NP, which most Saber lacks

She has the highest Hp as Saber, plus one of the best healing skill on her.

Based on that, IMO she has her niche. And a good base for either farming or boss fight, it's just that she isn't really the best at either, one thing DW can do to help her is to do the same as they did to Saber, give her a battery skill to help her spam her NP thus deBuff clean the team more often, or add an extra effect on her NP like AOE Buff clean, def down, etc etc.