Talk:Fate/EXTRA CCC Collaboration Event/@comment-187.85.91.59-20170423131658/@comment-28209103-20170424050948

Asterios + Mashu + Hans could reach same result and actually beat him. I've used Mashu Asterios Waver, Asterios die early cuz there's no healing (forgot to use default outfit) but Tamamo come foward and complete the turtle formation.

Asterios NP reduced enemy atk by 60% for one turn.. you just need 40% def up and enemy atk are 100% innefective. Good Guy Goetia will fill yer NP fast nuff to spam his OP np.

there's also that guy who beat tristan with 2 Asterios NP lock. Tristan are debuffed so hard he can only hit 100-0 for eternity