Talk:Zhuge Liang (Lord El-Melloi II)/@comment-179.4.46.159-20161016235833/@comment-9985455-20161027053259

The only difference is his skills didn't charge NP. It's just that the state of the game was very different. His first skill only gave Crit Up in a context where stars were fairly rare (this was before the Quick buff) and the servants that could reliable make use of stars weren't yet around. No Okita, Scach, Jeanne Alter, etc. His other two skills were also considered not very good since everybody was running around with half-leveled skills (they shine the most at Lv 10 after all). He also didn't have an upgrade interlude, so the def down wasn't too great, and the Curse was both weaker and lasted less, so there was little opportunity to make use of it.