Talk:Rama/@comment-180.253.25.81-20160330172755/@comment-28048698-20160330212252

In my opinion the Nasuverse IS a masterpiece. But there is a big problem here: usually the people think that a fight between Servants it's a game of rock, scissor and paper. "X" hero is better than "Y", but "Z" is better than "X", and  "W" is better than "Z" so he is better than "X" and "Y". The Nasuverse, or the Fate universe, doesn't work like that. In fact, usually it's a fight not between Servants but between concepts.

That's what happen in the Gilgamesh vs. Lancelot fight, the concept behind each Noble Phantasm clash with each other: Gilgamesh have unlimited Noble Phantasm with his Gate of Babylon, but Lancelot is fast enough to dodge them AND catch them, using his Noble Phantasm to appropiate them. We can see that in their first (and short) battle.

Also, let's remember one thing: their final fight wasn't 1 vs. 1, it was almost 3 vs. 1. Diarmuid helped using his Noble Phantasm, and Lancelot was attacking Saber instead of attack only Gilgamesh.

So please, stop transforming Fate universe in a rock-scissor-paper game, and stop taking Fate/Grand Order as a something canonical.