Talk:Sigurd/@comment-34196279-20180719153520/@comment-33579485-20180720071451

"what about 5th form? With crit damage and buffs + 5th form Musashi will easy beat Sigurd crit damage."

Why?

"also about NP's ... Musashi also can debuff enemy's. again you don't say about it."

Because it can't. Remove buff =/= debuff.

"plus you say about how good is guts stats if enemy have pierce skill... but what if enemy have invisibility? Musashi can pierce them but Sigurd don't have any pierce skills."

That's true, but neither does Lancelot who is also better than Musashi. We have CE's and MC's that can anyway, it's hardly an is

"And Sigurd's guts with 1000HP means nothing, he will die on next ATTACK"

The obvious counter argument is that anyone with pierce invincible will die instantly, rather than "next attack".

TBH, I see a lot of the reasons one would think Musashi is better than Sigurd to be the same reasons why Okita is better than Musashi. In that order.