Talk:Artoria Pendragon/@comment-39685984-20190603120942/@comment-39685984-20190604145920

In mordred's case, her deffense boost is just useless (i don't know why you make so much emphasis on it). it would be useful in a Berserker class, but is not on her. To begin with, in most of the cases when you're using a Saber class, is because you're facing a Lancer class, so you will recieve despictable damage anyway. And in all of the other possible cases where you would need a defense boost (like facing hard event challenges, or high HP bosses), you would be having at least 1 Tank or Healer in your team to assure survavility (AKA Mashu, Jeanne, Medulily, Merlin, Waver), so you won't need any defense boost.

Mordred is already a descent NP spammer. Besides her 30% NP charge by skill, she charges a minimum of 10% NP bar after using her NP. Her damage is also already strong. Even stronger than Gawain under the sun, which is pretty high. But, as you can see in the table, she still far in damage from the TOP ones.

Even a 4 star Servant as Nero outdamages Mordred

So, to reach the level of efficiency that Artoria post-upgrade has, what Mordred would need is a boost in her Damage. Not niche damage but overall damage. That's the only thing that keeps her from being one of the Top 3 AOE Sabers.