Talk:Orion/@comment-36517927-20180927052855/@comment-35412194-20181112171232

Why bring Eury here when you clearly said "Demiya will deal more damage compared to Orion on non-males (AND MALE TO SOME EXTEND)? And I never said she's a bona fide servant on her own, she needs set up. But saying even with set up she's still overshadowed to Emiya is absurd.  I don't see how "abusable" Emiya atk up is, yes you can keep it for 5 turns, but keeping it also limiting you the use of his command cards. Yes of course he's better when you fight some boss who spam def up, but what about some boss that has crit skill? or some boss that can np charge? At that time would you rather stick with someone with a 80% drain chance for an extra 3(6)k dmg, or a 100% chance sure drain?