Talk:Leonardo Da Vinci (Rider)/@comment-25712820-20190805085208/@comment-37443387-20190805214321

I can say I like using lolivinci better than Mordred, although it doesn't take a lot to spam NP with Mordred.

Max Tamamo (any CE) + NP2 Mordred 6/6/6 with (non-max) Kaleido + Paracelsus 6/6/8 refills Mordred's NP to 130++%.

For lolivinci, my set up needs max Tamamo with bond CE, NP1 lolivinci 8/6/6 + Paracelsus + Ceremonial New Year mystic code to get lolivinci to full NP on turn 1. Firing her NP refunds around 82-89%, but if you have her first skill at level 8, it should max her NP bar for the next wave.

Again, in my case, easier with Mordred to farm doors, but I'd rather take lolivinci with me on harder fights.