Talk:Katsushika Hokusai (Saber)/@comment-37946388-20190818012911/@comment-27971189-20190818141832

> Competetive

LMAO.

On regards to 4* support Archers, its difficult to give Hime A+ because Chiron exist and SSR ver. of what she offers is Summer Jeanne who easily more universal. If there is legit reason to defend Hime under A+ its would be her spammability.

You can run Hime (50% Charge CE) + Waver + Summer BB. Lock her deck, charge her to 100%. I'm pretty sure you can loop it to the point her self buff looks awesome; that is what could justify her better than Carmilla as Hime NP 5 legit three turns lethal bombardment to Saber / Berserker / AE gangs.

If you add Cas. Gil to that, its great, then again it requires good things to have by your own so assuming player starts new, Carmilla is better as Hime benefit most to veterans / whale.

Maou Nobu herself deserve getting bad score and got nothing to defend herself.

As I said on her page, her kit requires too much optimism of consistent crits.

You can mitigate her kit with Merlin, but that alone already questioning whether she is good or not because Jeanne Alter and Dantes can provide better deal under Hans care while Maou Nobu struggle with demand providing consistent high damage before killed by her first skill. Being neutral also hurts her as majority of Divine is not Ruler.

On regards of Hokusai itself, jumping straight to 'S' is poor decision because Lancelot, Yagyu and Diarmuid exist that her benefit over them is simply free NP 5 which they have no issue to compete with even by NP 1.