Talk:2017 New Year Lucky Bag Summoning Campaign/@comment-33522259-20181029145615/@comment-37370820-20181101151307

Servants are only as strong as the people using them (taking into account that they are by default leveled decently.) It's strats, bruh. Hence you need to work your brain a little more to make them work.

--- They have their place in team compositions. Both are solid zerks & enforcers for art comps where those teams will generally lack damage on the face card side of things; these two will make up for it with the class advantage. The card distribution is fair in that respect, and Nightingale's hit counter isn't anything to snuff at either. A zerk that can help boost a quick chain with a 6 hit card is respectable. Both skill kits are solid af too. Like, mercy. --- +50% buster buff (rank 10) on Nightingale for 3 turns that's targetable? Heals + debuff removal on NP. Humanoid trait advantage that's applicable against pretty much every servant out there. --- Vlad has an innate np battery + enemy np gauge-1 on his first skill. He's got survivability built into him, and his NP will generate crit stars which will further boost np gain next turn for the other arts servants tremendously. A really good all-purpose nuker against any class of enemy & face card enforcer with a kit you can strategically utilize to suit your specific needs at a given situation. ---

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, [As long as it's informed that is imo.] If you don't mind the nuance that comes with using them instead of the standard brainless zerk gorilla red card deck that most zerkers boast, then I'd roll for 'em honestly.

The two things you should be prioritizing before thinking about more specific niches would be getting your support servants straightened out because they'll be used to back up the most if not all your team compositions. Generally, this would fall under two classes. Casters & Berserkers.

Casters: Waver (Zhuge), Caster Gil, Helena, Hans, Shakespeare, Mozart, etc. Berserkers: Zerks. Just zerkers. I've explained above. All around general class advantage is more useful than a specified niche class.

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Shinsuke said it's better to pick the class where you lack. I'd back that up, honestly. If you roll sabers, you're guaranteed an aoe clearer at least.

Try to consider the four stars that will be included in the summoning bag as well. Those might pop up as well if you're lucky enough.