Talk:Illyasviel von Einzbern/@comment-36751500-20190125231038/@comment-37378120-20190130192302

Short version: She's very good, but some people would prefer Sanzang instead.

Despite comments against her, she is the hardest hitting ST Caster per NP level, and this isn't going to change any time soon(that we can tell anyway). Her NP gen actually isn't all that bad despite one of the other comments, she simply doesn't have Sanzangs level of gen(she has an 80% battery after all!).

Caster mod is a lot like her NP demerit: It doesn't actually matter in the long run, Illya is still going to hit like a truck. 0.9x ATK doesn't stop her NP from hitting harder than almost every ST servant in the 7 core classes. Only Scathach, Brynhildr, and Maid Alter can surpass her damage at every NP level, Musashi and Kintoki Berserker surpass at NP2 and higher.

The demerit is only -10% ATK and DEF for 3 turns, and Illya can potentially negate one case of it with her 3rd skill. On a big buff turn, depending on the supports you are using, you might have +50% ATK among other effects like +100% Buster, losing 10 of that ATK isn't going to seriously hinder your damage, it's the DEF down that *might* cause a problem, if the enemy decides to crit Illya during those 3 turns.