Talk:Sigurd/@comment-35789030-20180720051608/@comment-35412194-20180723154131

And ignoring the fact that Musashi NP deals more dmg than Mordred NP even if it's a saberface or not is not ignorant? "The basic lines how someone score higher on tier list is not how someone fit challenge quest;  how many advantages you could got with him/her whether you new or experienced. If its simply for reason of challenges, a lot of Servants can replace Tamamo/Waver/Merlin/Jeanne on top tier." Then please explain to me the criteria of appmedia? Why did appmedia makes 2 rating: 1 for farming and 1 for challenge quest? And please give me someone that can overtop Merlin/Waver in terms of their utilities. About Shimosa, sorry but off class is a problem, along with no support. ​​​​​​​It doesn't matter what her deck is, when fighting non-lancer, Musashi, Mordred or whatever saber doesn't deal high enough damage to overcome the class dmg bonus (aside from Siegfried when fighting dragon). And I'm pretty sure when fighting Tomoe, that AQBBB deck is not the main problem, but the fact that you are bringing a saber vs an archer is And I don't get why Mordred got "real" advantage compared to Musashi, like a 50% def up for 1 turn, charge 30% NP and remove debuffs, is better than buff cleanse, pierce and higher damage?, or the ability to boost damage, instant np fill or creates star? Yeah sure, there are challenge quests where Mordred is better, but is it as much as the amount of quests where Musashi will outperform her? Nope.