Talk:Kiyohime/@comment-31760473-20170508023118/@comment-28048698-20170508045317

@Valeth: Not really EX isn't "cannot be properly calculated for each of their own reason". It's "cannot be properly calculated because his numerical representation is outside our ranking". It's like trying to measure Darius III's height using only a ribbon with a lenght of one meter and fifty centimeters. That is, in fact, the most common mistake: believing that "EX" means "it's outside the ranking because it's special", but no, it's outside the ranking because it's too high. In the ranking system of Fate each letter have a numerical representation, E is 10, D is 20, C is 30, etc. The highest you can go is A+++ (50 + 50 + 50 + 50, a total of 200). Well, EX is even higher than A+++. The system doesn't have a numerical value for something that high.

I'll quote the material explanation: " A is the highest normal rank, but there is an exception to the rule with the EX Rank. It represents something that falls outside of the numerical ranking scale, a value that cannot be quantified under the normal system because it is in a league of its own, powerful to the extent of rendering comparisons meaningless."

Powerful. Not special, not because it have their own reasons. It's because it's powerful.

And you are right, Kiyohime's NP is EX because it depends on her wrath, and if she use her NP with the full extent of her wrath the power would be EX. The NP's stats doesn't depend of the Servant atribute. For example, for Excalibur it doesn't matter if Artoria is physical strong or not, the sword itself have its own power when it's released.