Talk:Orion/@comment-36517927-20180927052855/@comment-34364075-20181112134034

The QP it takes to max Orion’s skills can max 2 of Euryale’s skills. Fair tradeoff.

And who’s gonna supply the stars for Orion to crit in AQQ chains? Even with LB 2030 on Tamamo and Waver, how often will this opportunity come? Not to mention doing this would throw down potential arts chains down the drain (less NP spams from Tamamo and Waver) which significantly lowers stalling potential.

And no, even arts stalls have limits. Raid quest turn limits, Time it takes to play the game, boredom, etc. If you want a balance between offensive arts and turtle teams, Orion is better; otherwise just go either full turtle with Jeanne and Mash or offensive with Demiya.