Talk:Super Orion/@comment-33784096-20191219013910/@comment-27971189-20191219075431

I'm quite sure you can burst Kiara with Orion NP 5 + Merlin; not sure about Amakusa because he's old boss and his HP is fairly low that, again, Orion + Merlin / Mozart should be able to do it.

I'd say the hard counter of him are two.

First is buffs block / removal as it affect his crit game consistency. Second is card block, like Black Camelot CQ that not allow you to gain advantages unless you attack with certain card.

Then again, both are something that hamper every other Servant. So yeah, he's not that weak to the point his hard counter are something that hurt every other Servants. "AQBBB need charging" reason doesn't apply to him as, similar to King Hassan, he effectively null AQBBB weakness with stats, skill and NP that you may say the minus part of him is he's not a dedicated survivor like King Hassan, who have lower damage potential but higher survivability.