Talk:Frankenstein/@comment-100.8.53.203-20171023205955/@comment-2001:E68:542F:1E86:F04E:FC0E:69D7:B4AB-20171226165726

 Fran stat is low so the multiplier doesn't matter? I can't help but think you did't really use Fran in game before don't you? (*forgot to include Fou ATT in following sample, but doesnt matter)



Flat use

Lancelot, Lv80, 10477ATT, NP2 (800%), OC 100% damage: 22672 - 27711, avg 25192

 Lancelot, Lv80, 10477ATT, NP2 (800%), OC 500% damage: 26795 - 32749, avg 29772

Fran, Lv80, 9441ATT, NP2 (1100%), OC 100% damage 3rd skill Lv1: 36775 - 44947, avg 40862



With Lv10 ATT+ from Zhugeliang

Lancelot, Lv80, 10477ATT, NP2 (800%), OC 100% damage: 29356 - 35768, avg 32563

 Lancelot, Lv80, 10477ATT, NP2 (800%), OC 500% damage: 33478 - 40807, avg 37143

Fran, Lv80, 9441ATT, NP2 (1100%), OC 100% damage  3rd skill Lv1 : 46469 -  56684, avg 51577

 Fran, Lv80, 9441ATT, NP2 (1100%), OC 100% damage  3rd skill Lv6 : 48384 -  59026,  avg 53705



Lets take a Okita ST NP with Zhugeliang Lv10 ATT+ as example:

Against non lancer unit - Okita, Lv90, 12068ATT, NP1 (1200%), OC100% all skill Lv10: 43148 - 52626, avg 47888

 Against lancer unit -   Okita, Lv90, 12068ATT, NP1 (1200%), OC100% all skill Lv10: 104752 - 127919, avg 116336

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<p style="font-weight:400;"> Fran AOE NP damage is close to Single Target NP damage if comparison unit did not get class advantage bonus multiplier. As you can see, Fran with Lv1 3rd skill already deal nearly additional 50% damage than what Lancelot 500% OC can deal (Lancelot 500% OC is already unrealistic enough) - the difference is big enough to decide whether it is a card to end a round immediately or not. For mob clearing, as long as the mob hp > 33k, there is chances Lancelot NP2 might failed to clear them and waste all those star. For Fran, the same risk rise when enemy hp > 46k with Fran NP2 and 3rd skill Lv1.

<p style="font-weight:400;"> No matter what scenario you setup, if everyone still deal flat/white damage (x1.0) except berserker (x1.5),  Fran NP AOE damage is all time top 10 in game. Fran NP5 damage is higher than Raikou NP5 without trigger special attack (Raikou NP5 is top 1 in game if trigger special attack). Even Tesla NP5 100% OC (with special attack bonus) on non-saber unit cannot surpass Fran NP5 damage.

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<p style="font-weight:400;"> In usual event grinding, XXX for Round 1, YYY for Round 2 and ZZZ for round 3.

<p style="font-weight:400;"> If a unit able to 1 shot Round 3 as ZZZ, that unit is definitely a good choice in that particular quest. Why would you rely on critical hit that might affected by your card Luck  when you have a consistent NP card that you can use anytime you want? (Lancelot 3 buster on round 1, Gilgamesh 2 buster on Round 2, what now? Curse RNG and try to waste 1 more round? Or go into round 3 and let Zhugeliang crit instead?) For this role, Fran is always more suitable as ZZZ than Lancelot because the damage threshold is simply higher.

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<p style="font-weight:400;">Don't get me wrong. Lancelot is strong, critical hitter is valuable DPS in later part of game because it is where the damage start to spike. He is more valuable than Fran when Fran damage is not sufficient to clear stage since he generate a lot of star for main DPS in next round. With simple card calculation you now have a toolkit to manually control the timing for critical. But 80% of this game are consisted of repeatable quest and most of the 10-30AP round 3 are under Fran 1 shot range. If you have black grail and proper buff (ATT+ & NP DMG+ & PERFORMANCE+), even most of the AP40 Round 3 can fall into Fran 1 shot range.

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<p style="font-weight:400;">My favourite setup is Arash (Kaleidoscope + 3rd skill clear round 1), Francis/Atalante (Kaleidoscope + Zhugeliang buff clear round 2), swap another Zhugeliang up to made Fran full NP. As long as enemy hp is below 140k (Francis case)/170k(Atalante case), it is within 1 shot range. Exactly same setup for lancelot is 93k (Francis)/109k (Atalante).

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