Talk:Prologue/December 26, 2017/@comment-12160982-20180102201223/@comment-28209103-20180103052845

that's what bothering me too. He need external sauce of mana to do that crazy stunt so yeah.. but, it's not like he's doing acrobatic all around the jungle or fighting a heavily armed guy without any firearm so cut him some slack.. I mean it's just a single surprise palm thrust from behind..

not to mention I put great emphasis on how weak some servant is that it's possible for human to beat them.. if it's even someone like Faber or even Jack level of servant then I will also call it BS but if it's just Shakespeare, Mozart or Alexandre Dumas then Kirei chance to win are pretty high upfront.. Da Vinci might be tad tough to beat upfront but from behind it's not that unthinkable to one shot her.

tl;dr : What I wanted to say is that human can't beat servant is not an universal rule, there's always exception be it from human side (Man who can duel with Heroic spirit) or the Heroic spirit side (Heroic spirit weak enough to be beaten by human) does exist. the former example is like Zeltrech or Bartholomei Lorelei.