Talk:Illyasviel von Einzbern/@comment-96.242.234.85-20170916162744/@comment-100.8.53.203-20171127145505

@FGOHikaru That's why I said "actual competitors" AND "those with real cards." I know Sakura wasn't a doll back then and Chloe says she's pretty sure that Sakura is currently a doll (http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Fate-Kaleid-Liner-Prisma-Illya-Drei-chapter-53-page-7.html). That's why I put Angelica as the Archer user and not Sakura. According to TV Tropes, the entire thing with Sakura was that Sakura was manipulated by Julian into giving Shirou the "Gilgamesh Card," giving Shirou hope, only for Shinji to show up and kill them both. Apparently Julian planned to do this out of spite. Of course, I'm not 100% sure about that because I haven't found an official source on that....

Sakura using Arondight wheeeennnnn???