Talk:Leonardo Da Vinci (Rider)/@comment-35700336-20190819081243/@comment-35412194-20191006171519

Late to the debate but whatever, Para + 2xTamamo set up: - Da Vinci NP refunds 50% - Mordred NP refunds 122% Do note that this is without overkill so they look lower than you see. So yeah, while Da Vinci got her skill 1 and np to make up for the difference, and both can refunds 100% when fighting door/caster (or even non-zerk ones). The difference may be noticeable when facing zerks.