Talk:Ryougi Shiki (Saber)/@comment-112.215.244.240-20180214175946/@comment-34208015-20180215183557

Stats are only the number displayed on the card. Passive skill doesn't count since it creates too much cases. For example Artoria has a riding skill +8% Quick perf so Artoria has higher stats for Quick ? No sense, it's no longer stats. And what about Extra action card? Shiki saber has lowest the attack stat, doesn't matter there is no point arguing this fact. Anyway it's not the main reason of her relative weakness: her main flaw is her weak NP.

Also, Invul, Dodge or Guts: I consider these skills as real plus that put them on a whole other level. any of these skill grant a servant, more survibility and so more independance. Independance and versatility is according my standard what makes a servant from good to great.