Talk:Jeanne d'Arc (Alter)/@comment-39954983-20191121020919/@comment-27971189-20191121045420

Its a five turns Curse.

Under span of five turns, depends on the team, MC and CEs, you can stack three Curses which may reach 2.5k for three turns. Considering how damage spreaded on a team also her Avenger passives, its one significant damage push that can go off-class with only resist / debuff immunity / cleanse can forget about it as her buff block means you can prevent enemy buff on demand.

Enemy does have skills cooldown, only enemy in CQ that may not have skill cooldown (Ozy in NeroFes pre-nerf or Tristan in Saber Wars II). Some of them sometimes have another skills on their disposal that's not available on their playable version (Alterjuna crit. boost CMIIW)

Also, even if you bring 100k HP as reason, there are good amount of OTK setup can be done in JP and you still have CS to make up for some of it. J. Alter is no exception, with her star-absorb and deck, she can rack crits from usual Merlin setup while getting her NP ready enough to blast two bars with advantages.

So she's still considerably strong compare to newer Servants, no real reason to upgrade her when she's still much more relevant for every Ruler contents in this game compare to the rest of Avenger (Nobu, Dantes and Space Ishtar).