Talk:Achilles/@comment-35474817-20180502213314/@comment-35121543-20180502234001

Being a quick servant actually has little to do with it. The issue with quick servants is that we don't have anyone with a Fox's Wedding or Angel's Cry equivalent. Achilles doesn't need that though- he already gets a massive 0.61 boost to his quick cards thanks to his NP and his skils. He pairs better with people who can boost his attack or NP damage, since those stack multiplicatively.

His real issue is that his NP is an AoE with a low multiplier, and that he doesn't offer much team support. With the exception of a few specific characters like Santa Rider or Gil (who have abnormally high multipliers on their phantasms), that's usually a fatal blow to any servant. 9 times out of 10 an AoE servant won't be viable unless they're support oriented, or deal damage through other means (such as Raikou using her phantasm to build stars then doing insane damage via crits).

And besides damage Achilles doesn't bring much to the table. He has good survivability. He has a nice taunt, but Mash does all that and more.

tl;dr there are just better options no matter what you're using Achilles for. I guess he's .got a niche as a hybrid Mash/damage dealer.