Talk:Nero Festival Redux ~2016 Autumn~/@comment-27996510-20161004231653

Well used my Shiki to remove the buff negation and then used my Amakusa to remove their buffs, unfortunatly not all the buffs are removeable, that Def upgrade is nasty! ill wait for my command seal to recover and try again but the only way to defeat them is with crits+jeanne for her noble phantasm protection and ofcrouse berserkers like Raikou for absorbation of those star u creat those are the best combos i figured which got me to almost beating this harsh, created by the grail itself, full of despair stage!

(Jalter might be a good replacement for Raikou as well, but this fight need berserkers so much T_T)

need someone with raikou and 2030 CE if i want to beat it with what i have.