Talk:Kiyohime/@comment-31760473-20170508023118/@comment-28048698-20170508224906

@SeiryuShin: He is right about Kiyohime's NP. Today I was looking about Kiyohime's Noble Phantasm and it didn't say anything about the power being linked to her rage. However, it transform her into a dragon. Let's remember something: dragons are amongst the most powerful creatures in the Nasuverse. And she does this without being herself a dragon.

But... "EX just means it is special, not that is necessarily Overpowered". I will say the same thing I said before: source, please. This is just an interpretation. Literally Fate material explain EX rank as the most powerful, not the most special, not the most weird, not anything like that. The only Fate where the EX rank mean something else is Grand Order. And here in Grand Order almost everything is against what Nasu told us in previous Fates.

By the way, Asterios isn't "just a maze". First of all, it's at the same level of a Reality Marble (and it's already stated how powerful a Reality Marble can be). Second, it isn't going to dissapear until Asterios die or every enemy die, so it's impossible to escape from him. Third, Asterios' maze is one of the most famous labyrinths of all times, at least if we talk about mythology.

Sigh. For things like this I hate Grand Order lore-wise. It's a funny game and all, but it desecrate Nasuverse's lore, rules, and everything that was carefully created before. It's a shame to see what Nasu is doing with his own universe.