Talk:Saber Wars Event Re-run/@comment-29027964-20180316020519/@comment-28209103-20180316202921

@Danakane : So now it's all subjective? then there's no point in arguing anything since it's basically my standard vs your standard. It simply pointless. Even if you said it's not demerit or not horrible post-buff it is just empty argument without any objective basis since it's just "relative"

However MY standard are clear standard that anyone could reach by simply objectively comparing skill across relevant or similar skill and effect and note the pattern be it in the paper or in practical use. There's 2 general pattern of stun skill and the pattern affect the timing, purpose and the final result intended. Saying stun is just stun without even trying to understand the pattern is simply being short sighted. Honestly just note the differences between AoE stun/charm and ST stun/charm and the pattern should be really obvious, there's only 3 or so exception so far afterall.

It's really a simple really, the answer is as obvious as the answer of "When is the best time to use BB charm vs when is the best time to use Waver stun + def down"

Not to mention you completely missed Durandal point, This is not a math problem. It doesn't matter if it's 99% guaranteed to hit 2 out of 3 enemy, the problem is that can you stun the one you need to hit? If not then it's useless. If you miss the stun then it's just 8 turns before the next nothing. On the other hand Shuten 60% are not just charm chance, if it missed there's def down with it and frankly the def down is what you'll be using it most of the time. Missing shuten charm and missing MHX charm are completely 2 different things PRACTICALLY SPEAKING.

Honestly do your own homework, it's not math but simple observation, go compare every AoE stall kit, find the pattern, try to imagine the best way to use it,. then go observe the single target Stun/charm kit, note the pattern, try to imagine the best way to use it. Compare the pattern you collected with MHX skill, make your own conclusion. It's not even that complicated of a pattern, really. there's only 3-4 variable, I"m sure even middle schooler can handle that much variable.