Talk:New Year Campaign 2016/@comment-5135725-20171221194000/@comment-174.16.39.75-20171224191436

Here's kind of the problem with calculating the math of a summons. The 10X summons guarentees a 3 star servant and a 4 star card, but thta doesn't necessarily mean you'll have a roll that exludes all others. From what I've read, its more likley that if by the 9th roll, if you don't have a servant, it excludes all craft essences, and by the 10th if you have no golds it excludes all non golds; however, if you did already get a servant or a gold in the original 8, these last two rolls wont happen.

I don't know for sure if this is how it works, but I did a bit of research about a month ago and this seemed to be the most commonly held belief amongst players who have been here for a while. Also, just because a roll guarentees a 4 star card, doesn't guarentee that SSR chances are any more than 1%. It could still be like 91% SR CE, 5% SSR CE, 3% SR Servant, 1% SSR Servant. That would be sad, but since this is a game designed to make money, I wouldn't be surprised.

Either way, its safe to assume that when it comes to 5 star servants, your chance is always the same with the excpetion of the 5 Star paid gacha. Now, if you do a 10 roll, you will for sure get something aside from 10 Kirei spooks, but when it comes to 5 Star servents, single rolls and 10 rolls are the same. What this also means is that in the world of 5 Star servants a summon ticket is worth as much as 3 saints quarts and 10 tickets is essentially worth as much as a 30 SQ roll, which is something nice because that effectively is like getting 3 more quarts per week with the day 7 login.

Like I said, I don't for sure how the gacha works, but this seems to be the general belief of the community, and lets be honest, being a pessimist when it comes to gambling like this is probably the safest bet anyway.