Talk:Mochizuki Chiyome/@comment-38105714-20191014104036/@comment-27971189-20191016192750

> Saber Medb

> Amazing Support

> Arts card Lover.

I do feel bad for Emperor if that's your standard.

I'll take this so-called ST NP with 23k neutral damage as it came with abusable seal. Extra one turn + lesser chance of worst case scenario + good synergy with free unit that is Mashu.

Which parts of Saber Medb competing here?

Defense stacking?

She have curse stacking, and you only need her to attack, no need aiming for NP and RNG. Moreover major players of Arts Saber, Lancelot and Yagyu, wouldn't really need her service. Lancelot have his own Arts buff and defense debuff also critical damage boost, while Yagyu favors extra tool to time his burst as he got enough for both attack and defense.

60% Charm? Chiyome have NP Seal, 80% from start, no need male enemies. What left from her are special Charisma, star-regen and Arts res. down; you can ask yourself if give the slot to Medb for that advantages or simply defense debuff stacking actually worth it, be it by advantages or neutral.

Even under merit of NP spam team by Tamamo, Chiyome have easier time to join any team as when you run both, her NP Seal and dodge max. CDs roughly became 3 turns, while her curse + Arts boost became near-perma. I'm not exactly an Arts enthusiasts, but I found this kind of team much better because lockdown is good and third slot open to various option such as: Sherlock, Drake, Amakusa, Leonidas, or simply Rider Da Vinci for maximum abuse.

Now Charlotte? Can you go out of Rider nodes as firm as her by simply having Tamamo? Saber Medb, what about you? You're this amazing support approved by Arts lover, right?

I personally considered her good permanent.

Being less tricky than Kiritsugu, Meiren and Danzo is already good. Not to mention better plug-and-play capabilities considering Assassin class in general.

Low damage is not something new from Assassin, and she paid well with seal spam potential she have.

In regards to your question-- why I need Scathach, through hassle of preparing charger or MLB-ing Kaleidoscope when Enkidu exist and strong enough to solo it that you can simply went two taunters also full CC? Not to mention Cu and Houzouin exist. Why a Miyu when Hans exist? Why Kintoki if his NP not enough to break a bar considering his shortcoming?

I simply do not want to prostrate to them just because they have Limited tags. Feel free to defend them as its not like you have to follow my taste.