Talk:Illyasviel von Einzbern/@comment-96.242.234.85-20170916162744/@comment-100.8.53.203-20171127050239

@Hitsuji Allow me to reword my previous statement: Yeah, but that was like in a flashback, so I didn't rly count it. We knew Sakura was a doll, so she had to be dead. Same with Beatrice. If you exclude the flashbacks and the Cards and the dolls, starting from when Illya meets Rin up to now, no character has died. Despite various confrontations between amazingly powerful enemies - Salter, Heracles, Kuro, Bazett, Gilgamesh, Angelica and Beatrice, and even that horde of Mud-formed Heroic Spirits, neither side has suffered a single casualty. That's what I meant when I said Beatrice is the first character whose death we've seen from start to finish in the present time and not in a flashback. Think of it as invoking the Sacrificial Lamb trope.

Wow, I never knew about the extra Fragarachs. I always thought she had three in Hollow Ataraxia. Thanks Hitsuji, I learned something new today!

Yeah, but a lot of the fandom rly hates Julian for wanting to sacrifice Miyu. Quite honestly, though, even Shirou acknowledges that he's quite similar to Kiritsugu, so I guess the majority of the fandom either hates Kiritsugu or are hypocrites (shrugs). Honestly, when you look at Julian from the beginning, he seems like some grim villain who's a total douche for wanting to sacrifice Miyu. But honestly? Your mind is being controlled by your ancestor. Your sister's in some serious trouble. Your other sister is essentially dead and has her soul stuffed in a marionette. Oh, and let's not forget he's trying to save the world. I think I'd look a lot worse than he does.

But still, awesome chapter! Time to wait a month or two for the next chapter. What do you think will happen?