Talk:Okita Sōji/@comment-29027964-20180524023826/@comment-27971189-20180526085937

@ Seybah

You misunderstood it as general Quick assessment.

When we're talking about value based on meta, what comes to mind basically: "What is latest difficult content?"; "How her performance compare to newer units when deal with it?"; "How far his/her presence help, affecting the whole situation?"; "Is the difficulty to pull the kit worth it?"

That first. There is nothing wrong with Quick if the said Quick Servant capable to cover all that three aspect. Even with Quick design flaws, if said Servants having Merlin-tier skills you won't feel he/she actually bad.

Following that. As I said, Okita already fall the moment Lancelot (Saber) arrives, because:

Why do I need to pick her Quick card only for stars available for limited turn when I can have straight three turns, consistent stars that everyone could use, minimalize risk of card shuffle during difficult battle while also has potential of better outcome with some star management which also included on Lancelot kit?

Under current standard, having high damage NP and high NP gain (that actually tied to her crits) is not enough to justify high score on tier list; then people like Caster Gil and Edison just laugh at the need of Quick involvement in general.

On MHX case, its her invul. granting significant leap.

Assassin problem nowadays lies on how they fare on long, difficult battle thanks to all critical buffs that new Riders bosses often come with. This is reason why, King Hassan and Cleo are so prominent on difficult quest as they didn't have that weakness, thus a single invul. managed to gave an increase on MHX rating.

On Saber case, slapping dodge won't save Altria from bottom tier with ease when you can see Musashi, Mordred and even Arthur obliterate things while strengthening their presence.

You ask for why? That's why I'm not answering it with "They didn't have update" like what Shinsuke did.