Talk:Arjuna/@comment-31760473-20170714014627/@comment-4802891-20170824070837

"Don't call it Agateram, it hurts"

My arm is pleased just by reading that TT v TT ...and then Valeth trolls us and my arm hurts again. Why Valeth, why?

Anyway... if Bedivere is to be treated like a buffed Emiya Shirou with circumstances, it's fine by me. In my opinion, aside from morale degradation, Bedivere had some tactical advantages. He is very nimble, so even if Mordred is stronger, he can evade attacks in straight line. Airgetlam being the sacred sword without laser beams, and able to oneshot a Phantasmal Beast (sphinx), he can probably deal heavy damage to Mordred as soon as he gets openings. Not a easy fight, but he has advantages to counterbalance the rest.

The battle with Gawain was probably harder and him doubting his motives might have helped but, if I still go by agility, and dexterity, Bedivere can probably keep up and even surpass a non-buffed Gawain's swordplay (Lancelot I wouldn't count on that, he doesn't have Eternal Arms Mastership for nothing). I'm iffy on the buffed version... are we sure he solo'ed Gawain? With really NO assistance from Mash?...

Tristan I'm positive he can defeat him if he can get close. We don't know how good Tristan is with a sword under Archer class but since he doesn't have skills to make that obvious (unlike Geronimo, Rama or Lancelot), I'm going to assume his swordplay is downgraded, giving Bedivere the upperhand. If he get caught in Failnaught tho, he would be fucked, most likely.

Hmm... My message is longer than it should have been... About Archer Gilgamesh, I don't think he has Clairvoyance per say BUT he had an omniscient power as a child, transformed in a Noble Phantasm when summoned in this state. Maybe his Caster form, who achieved wisdom and get a downgrade in cockiness, has the NP made active again, giving him some form of prescience similar to Clairvoyance? We will have to wait for material book IV.