Talk:Martha (Ruler)/@comment-27789594-20190809171832/@comment-27971189-20190811152959

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> Consistent damage

> Defense debuff is not helping that

With defense debuff, it solve her NP 1 owner issue and provide her good deal to increase her killcount. Its one of more futureproof update among this Strengthening batch, not sure what's your issue to the point saying it doesn't help for better consistent damage. Because its not Buster Up? Just use your Buster Up CE / buffer, she kept it open, not to mention advantages of Ruler with three 100% damage boost.

Also ...

Buster meme were running strong even after layered HP bar application until Christmas 2017 when they're set to pull "Increase Buster Resists" on Ishtar so you can't OTK her with Merlin; following that is the SIN Tree where you can see tree rotate Arts, Buster and Quick resist for sake of prolonging the battle, even so its not everyday you got that and they're still viable to blast both old man Li and Emperor if you wanted to do it Buster way.

Also, despite unable to produce stars and generate NP by card, they have advantages that they weren't reliant to NP making them ideal to reach certain damage threshold. Especially Servants non-Berserker with triple Buster deck, filling critical stars and buff their critical damage is already strong alternative to NP you can save that 100% gauge to next bar.

You consider that unable to deal with layered HP? As a note, such state is easily broken when the owner has kit like King Hassan and Arjuna Alter.

Why playing like Arts and Quick if you can spread the damage then blast it with NP whenever you consider the time is ideal; you have no real need aiming for NP 2+ compare to Arts and Quick especially with CS existing. Saying that's not an 'advantages' as far as saying they're weakened under layered HP bar is 'hilarious', if anything their latest addition (Sigurd, Napoleon, Meiren, Aswa, Arjuna Alter) are low-key having consistent performance by themselves while it looks like they need someone else help.